The real problem is Blizzards outstanding work. Honestly I'm not shitting you here. If you look at every game out there, then compare that game to a game of a similar genre in Blizzards catalogue, who's in first place? uhhh Blizzard is. and as such people expected nothing short of perfection, which let's be perfectly honest is impossible now-a-days. Now when something so slight goes wrong, "UH-OH BLIZZARD HAS FALLEN THEY SUCK NOW" It's an immature reaction that sadly exists. It's not due to the game itself it's due to how high these peoples expectations were. If you look back at the Launch of WoW vanilla, you'll see it was atrocious, hell any game that has an influx of over 3 million players (Guesstimate) will have severe server problems on day 1. The fact that Blizzard cleaned all of it up by day 3 was surprising. Sure there are some lag issues to be dealt with but people are logging in and beating inferno, so anyone saying this is the worst launch ever should re-evaluate their mental state.
The only real problem is the hacking. It's a problem that they're looking into. Clearly they won't know what to do until they find it's root. so anyone complaining about it is just dumb for doing so. Especially the complaints about "BUT ALWAYS ONLINE WAS SUPPOSED TO STOP THIS!" those are the worst. Especially since it's got nothing to do with botting, or using a hack to gain items or what not, It's a hack that exists to get an account, which can happen to you regardless of if it's online or offline and in any game not just Diablo 3. I find some of these arguments ludicrous and biased, ignorant and un-informed. They're trolls just because they feel on the internet they have a voice, and following en masse with the rest of the populus makes them a badass and, more importantly, right.
The solution, you ask? Ignore them. when they see they only get attention from other retards of the same nature they'll drop off very quickly. Is anyone complainign about server issues now? Oh what you've had none since Day 2? Oh so everything runs fine? Ah, I see well then carry on my friend, carry on.
Don't get me wrong, I think the amount of complaining is pretty ludacris, myself. But there are plenty of server problems still cropping up. They're still investigating problems related to 3007 and 3006, affecting people intermittently. I personally got hit with a random period of 3006 last night that lasted at least 3 hours. I just found something else to do and occasionally tried to log in and see if I could. It's not the end of the world to not be able to play D3 for the rest of an evening.
To the OP it's not that people are ungrateful or that nobody understands the problem of maintaining servers. It's just that people want the game to work and the game should have had offline mode, to start with, which could negate most of the problems we're facing right now.
Offline would ruin online. See "Diablo 2" for evidence. Great game, but it was ruined by hackers and manipulators. Unless you think you can successfully argue that D2 kept it's integrity intact? I have a sneaky suspicion that many of the complainers probably were the same people that complained about D2 the whole time it's been out, as well, they're likely part of the bunch that was hacking it to death, all the while, complaining.
For some perspective; At the risk of sounding like an old man, back in my time as a kid, playing 4-bit and 8-bit games, and PC games were all burdened with errors, If this sort of game suddenly became available (online Diablo 3) ....I would think fuckin space wizards had taken over the Earth. This sort of gaming experience would've seemed other-worldy.
Yet a few errors and some issues with server stability have caused an entire generation of demanding brats to forget how lucky they are to have such technology at their disposal. Y'all mother#$%*ers are spoiled, whether you realize it or not, spoiled.
To the OP it's not that people are ungrateful or that nobody understands the problem of maintaining servers. It's just that people want the game to work and the game should have had offline mode, to start with, which could negate most of the problems we're facing right now.
Offline would ruin online. See "Diablo 2" for evidence. Great game, but it was ruined by hackers and manipulators. Unless you think you can successfully argue that D2 kept it's integrity intact? I have a sneaky suspicion that many of the complainers probably were the same people that complained about D2 the whole time it's been out, as well, they're likely part of the bunch that was hacking it to death, all the while, complaining.
For some perspective; At the risk of sounding like an old man, back in my time as a kid, playing 4-bit and 8-bit games, and PC games were all burdened with errors, If this sort of game suddenly became available (online Diablo 3) ....I would think fuckin space wizards had taken over the Earth. This sort of gaming experience would've seemed other-worldy.
Yet a few errors and some issues with server stability have caused an entire generation of demanding brats to forget how lucky they are to have such technology at their disposal. Y'all mother#$%*ers are spoiled, whether you realize it or not, spoiled.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL THISSSSSSS^^^^^^^^^ A MILLION FUCKING TIMES.... i too am from the 8 bit era. my best friends nephew was born in 2001...... my friend and i were talking about the NES. his nephew looked at me and asked what is that and how many online games did it have? i was shocked into silence..... This is not a generation thing...... i meet adults on a daily basis like these kids.
How about you guys shut up trying to deffend blizzard. This is wow all over again with a bunch of blizzard fanboys defending blizzard. I'm not saying it's not hard I'm not saying that a game can't have problems but if a game have problems it is ALWASY THEIR FAULT. Sure I'm not hating on blizzard but the matter of the fact is this is not a beta this is not a test of servers they have had the exact same problem every time they launch a new game yet they are still to realise how to solve the problem. For instance arena net had a BETA event with gw2 where they had major problems but they fixed it faster than blizzard. Tbh it leads me to believe the problem isn't the amount of people logging in it's how their servers handle the loggin in (a good example of a game with a lot more players would be lol and they have a system that works and queue u up).
I try to keep my bitching to a minimum cause I'm fine with it but it's allowed to bitch if u buy a product that doesn't work and I'm pretty sure you could actually get your money back in some countries (read I live in Denmark and a lot of the eula from wow doesn't count cause it violate national laws I think about consumer rights. So yes they can ban you but legaly there are some grey areas) and possibly in most if u just bitch enough at the store that sold you. And no blizzard didn't sell me a license they can revoke at any time they sold me a game that sure they can ban me but I bought the game I didn't borrow it.
And btw people that got hacked didn't get hacked they got keylogged I'm pretty sure blizzard even said this and I'm pretty sure there is no problem where you can actually hack people. I'm just throwing the idea out there that people might not have been entirely honnest or entirely inteligent in their internet activities (I'm prob not any better but lets be fair u don't get hacked it's too much work it's so much easier to keylog people)
Actually they did rent you the game.... you really need to read thing before you hit accept
Diablo 3 is already much better off than Diablo 2 was when it released, and look how amazing of a game it turned out. It provided over a decade of fun for a lot of us. Be patient let em work out the problems. On a side note, to all the people complaining about barbarians, it was exactly the same in D2 as well, they are gear dependant and actually require some skill to play in higher difficulties. Thats what makes them fun imo, the challenge. If I wanted a game with overly balanced classes I would go back to playing WoW.
Apparently some people are ok about everything life throws at them. "Product's not working? - It's fine, really. Promises not being held? - who cares? Silly DRM? - Well, whatever. Greedy corporates? - I'm fine with that. Shitty government? It's ok - no need to bitch."
It's that kind of cattle mentality that slows things from becoming better.
You heard it here first folks. If we don't bitch and complain to Blizzard and make them "fix" the game then the government will collapse and corporations will take over the world.
If you buy a television and it doesn't work, you return it to the store. The same with everything else. Except software apparently. I have some knowledge of this, and I know that it's not possible to have a perfectly working flawless program. Not ever and especially not from day 1. This said, there are some critical issues (stuff like error 3006) that are unacceptable. These are most likely the result of Blizzard trying to save a few bucks. However, spending time complaining does not help. Only reason I'm doing it anyway, is that I can't login
When you buy a TV, you are buying a unique TV that is perfect for you. You know all the conditions it will have to run under, and if you spill coffee on it it's your fault.
Software is a one-size-fits-all TV. And whether you spill coffee on it or not, it will always be the manufacturer's fault.
Apparently some people are ok about everything life throws at them. "Product's not working? - It's fine, really. Promises not being held? - who cares? Silly DRM? - Well, whatever. Greedy corporates? - I'm fine with that. Shitty government? It's ok - no need to bitch."
It's that kind of cattle mentality that slows things from becoming better.
You heard it here first folks. If we don't bitch and complain to Blizzard and make them "fix" the game then the government will collapse and corporations will take over the world.
Well said, sir...
lol...."We are the 99%. We are against money. Can I borrow $20?"
Why are people so ungrateful for what blizzard has done for us?
There are bugs in the system ill grant you that but they are trying to fix them.
All day in general chat i see people complaing about how blizz sucks they wasted there money bla bla, like they are entitled to a game just because they payed money for it.
You dont own this game my friends and if you dont believe me read the TOS agreement.... your renting the right to play.... they own it and can take it from you at any time for no reason at all.
Have some Gd appreciation for what these people have givin you.
i love the diablo franchise and i appreciate what blizz gave me...... patience and understanding people... they give it to us everyday.
Lets get one thing straight, blizzard didn't give me anything. I paid for this. I can understand you being frustrated with all these people complaining (I am tired of it as well), but don't act like they didn't pay for it in some way.
*And I am not condoning people complaining, just FYI*
To the OP it's not that people are ungrateful or that nobody understands the problem of maintaining servers. It's just that people want the game to work and the game should have had offline mode, to start with, which could negate most of the problems we're facing right now.
Offline would ruin online. See "Diablo 2" for evidence. Great game, but it was ruined by hackers and manipulators. Unless you think you can successfully argue that D2 kept it's integrity intact? I have a sneaky suspicion that many of the complainers probably were the same people that complained about D2 the whole time it's been out, as well, they're likely part of the bunch that was hacking it to death, all the while, complaining.
For some perspective; At the risk of sounding like an old man, back in my time as a kid, playing 4-bit and 8-bit games, and PC games were all burdened with errors, If this sort of game suddenly became available (online Diablo 3) ....I would think fuckin space wizards had taken over the Earth. This sort of gaming experience would've seemed other-worldy.
Yet a few errors and some issues with server stability have caused an entire generation of demanding brats to forget how lucky they are to have such technology at their disposal. Y'all mother#$%*ers are spoiled, whether you realize it or not, spoiled.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL THISSSSSSS^^^^^^^^^ A MILLION FUCKING TIMES.... i too am from the 8 bit era. my best friends nephew was born in 2001...... my friend and i were talking about the NES. his nephew looked at me and asked what is that and how many online games did it have? i was shocked into silence..... This is not a generation thing...... i meet adults on a daily basis like these kids.
True. Many adults that played Double Dragon right along side us seem to have forgotten how things once were. This technology is truly awesome, and with that, it is also extremely complex and subject to endless problematic issues.
These same people saying they want their money back are likely leaving here and getting right back to D3, and they will continue to play it for years to come.
Relax and let the shit even out. God damn drive-thru instant gratification generation.
QFT! I'm losing my patience with these people. I want to invent a computer monitor that punches people in the face when they act like that. I will be a billionaire.
Relax and let the shit even out. God damn drive-thru instant gratification generation.
Actually shitface, it's been 12 years. 12 long years of development to deliver a game hyped to be epic in porportions that has turned out to be subpar due to technical difficulties.
Oh "shitface"...thats really mature. They haven't been working on this game for 12 years. So considering you started you post with an immature insult AND an incorrect statement, am I to trust the rest of your post should be discarded?
P.S. don't give me any of your shit about me being immature so you can ignore that I have a valid point like I've seen you do in threads. Yeah, your post didn't have cuss words in it and mine started by calling you a shitface. GET OVER IT! Maybe I'll consider being more mature when you stop being such a pussy.
....and yes, it gets worse.
lol....grow up. You don't have a valid point. You're just having a tantrum. Timeout chair? Yes, I think you need a 5 minute break.
Relax and let the shit even out. God damn drive-thru instant gratification generation.
QFT! I'm losing my patience with these people. I want to invent a computer monitor that punches people in the face when they act like that. I will be a billionaire.
Relax and let the shit even out. God damn drive-thru instant gratification generation.
Actually shitface, it's been 12 years. 12 long years of development to deliver a game hyped to be epic in porportions that has turned out to be subpar due to technical difficulties.
Oh "shitface"...thats really mature. They haven't been working on this game for 12 years. So considering you started you post with an immature insult AND an incorrect statement, am I to trust the rest of your post should be discarded?
P.S. don't give me any of your shit about me being immature so you can ignore that I have a valid point like I've seen you do in threads. Yeah, your post didn't have cuss words in it and mine started by calling you a shitface. GET OVER IT! Maybe I'll consider being more mature when you stop being such a pussy.
....and yes, it gets worse.
lol....grow up little boy. You don't have a valid point. You're just having a tantrum. Timeout chair? Yes, I think you need a 5 minute break.
wow.... just wow..... I'm being criticized for criticizing someone who is criticizing people for criticizing a game, and his final point is that cuss words make his "mature" mind shut down apparently. Too bad hypocrisy doesn't have the same effect. If I'm having a "tantrum" then are you going senile and about to ask me to reach into the hole in your pocket?
Yes, it is difficult to maintain servers with a lot of traffic. More stress tests can always be performed. But if only a handful of people are complaining (very loudly, mind you) out of the many, many people who purchased it, Blizzard did a hell of a job.
But one thing I cannot stand is people comparing software to televisions. Please, stop the madness.
Relax and let the shit even out. God damn drive-thru instant gratification generation.
Actually shitface, it's been 12 years. 12 long years of development to deliver a game hyped to be epic in porportions that has turned out to be subpar due to technical difficulties.
Oh "shitface"...thats really mature. They haven't been working on this game for 12 years. So considering you started you post with an immature insult AND an incorrect statement, am I to trust the rest of your post should be discarded?
P.S. don't give me any of your shit about me being immature so you can ignore that I have a valid point like I've seen you do in threads. Yeah, your post didn't have cuss words in it and mine started by calling you a shitface. GET OVER IT! Maybe I'll consider being more mature when you stop being such a pussy.
....and yes, it gets worse.
lol....grow up little boy. You don't have a valid point. You're just having a tantrum. Timeout chair? Yes, I think you need a 5 minute break.
wow.... just wow..... I'm being criticized for criticizing someone who is criticizing people for criticizing a game, and his final point is that cuss words make his "mature" mind shut down apparently. Too bad hypocrisy doesn't have the same effect. If I'm having a "tantrum" then are you going senile and about to ask me to reach into the hole in your pocket?
You're being "criticized" for calling me a "pussy" and a "shitface" for thinking people are being immature about this. How ironic, aye?
wow.... just wow..... I'm being criticized for criticizing someone who is criticizing people for criticizing a game, and his final point is that cuss words make his "mature" mind shut down apparently. Too bad hypocrisy doesn't have the same effect. If I'm having a "tantrum" then are you going senile and about to ask me to reach into the hole in your pocket?
Swearing and misinformation won't work to your favor. There's better ways to get your point across, regardless if it's correct or incorrect. I got my first infraction last night losing my temper with stupid people. This game hasn't been in development for 12 years, so the argument does lose validity.
I don't think many people understand anything anymore. I might be 17 years old, but god some of the people on these forums are fucking immature. Blizzard made a game that YOU hyped to be the greatest damn thing ever, just because it didn't live up to your every expectation doesn't mean it's terrible. The server downtime has been surprisingly good. Sure some few, and by few i mean the minority of players, have experienced some intermittent login issues post day 1, but to say the game is bad cause you can't play is ludicrous, most people can play so you need to calm down.
The hacking probably wasn't even hacking. It was probably kids getting suckered into a phishing scam. There's a big difference.
It's truly sad to see how many people complain over a little maintenance. When any game goes down for maintenance nobody complains, but because it's "big Bad Blizzard" let's all jump on the bandwagon and complain. Games have maintenance all the time. Just because Diablo 3 is having some issues doesn't make the game bad. the game on the contrary is pretty good, and to some extraordinary. So to say that the game is bad because "it's unplayable" is stupid because it is very much playable.
Off Topic: Some hate spewing retards over at metacritic have been saying "This is the last time I'll ever buy an EA product again." I laughed.
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Apparently some people are ok about everything life throws at them. "Product's not working? - It's fine, really. Promises not being held? - who cares? Silly DRM? - Well, whatever. Greedy corporates? - I'm fine with that. Shitty government? It's ok - no need to bitch."
It's that kind of cattle mentality that slows things from becoming better.
You heard it here first folks. If we don't bitch and complain to Blizzard and make them "fix" the game then the government will collapse and corporations will take over the world.
And idiots will be idiots. If that's all you take from his post, you're one as well.
It was their decision to make it online-only. Any problems that stem from that decision will always be on them.
I think it's relatively funny that everyone in this thread who is bitching happens to be throwing around insults at people who don't agree with them. So far I'm cattle and an idiot, anything else to add? Because your amazing vocabulary only further proves that you're incapable of forming a competent argument without using words you could hear any 12 year old who plays CoD every day screaming over the microphone when someone kills them. You knew coming in that Diablo 3 was going to be an online only game, if that was too much for you to handle then you should have rethought your purchase. Blizzard isn't going to sit down with everyone who wants D3 and ask them how to make it the way THEY want it, Blizzard is going to make the game Blizzard wants to. It's not their fault if you purchase the game knowing how it's going to operate just to bitch about it. It's YOUR fault.
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Offline would ruin online. See "Diablo 2" for evidence. Great game, but it was ruined by hackers and manipulators. Unless you think you can successfully argue that D2 kept it's integrity intact? I have a sneaky suspicion that many of the complainers probably were the same people that complained about D2 the whole time it's been out, as well, they're likely part of the bunch that was hacking it to death, all the while, complaining.
For some perspective; At the risk of sounding like an old man, back in my time as a kid, playing 4-bit and 8-bit games, and PC games were all burdened with errors, If this sort of game suddenly became available (online Diablo 3) ....I would think fuckin space wizards had taken over the Earth. This sort of gaming experience would've seemed other-worldy.
Yet a few errors and some issues with server stability have caused an entire generation of demanding brats to forget how lucky they are to have such technology at their disposal. Y'all mother#$%*ers are spoiled, whether you realize it or not, spoiled.
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You heard it here first folks. If we don't bitch and complain to Blizzard and make them "fix" the game then the government will collapse and corporations will take over the world.
When you buy a TV, you are buying a unique TV that is perfect for you. You know all the conditions it will have to run under, and if you spill coffee on it it's your fault.
Software is a one-size-fits-all TV. And whether you spill coffee on it or not, it will always be the manufacturer's fault.
Well said, sir...
lol...."We are the 99%. We are against money. Can I borrow $20?"
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Lets get one thing straight, blizzard didn't give me anything. I paid for this. I can understand you being frustrated with all these people complaining (I am tired of it as well), but don't act like they didn't pay for it in some way.
*And I am not condoning people complaining, just FYI*
True. Many adults that played Double Dragon right along side us seem to have forgotten how things once were. This technology is truly awesome, and with that, it is also extremely complex and subject to endless problematic issues.
These same people saying they want their money back are likely leaving here and getting right back to D3, and they will continue to play it for years to come.
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QFT! I'm losing my patience with these people. I want to invent a computer monitor that punches people in the face when they act like that. I will be a billionaire.
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Oh "shitface"...thats really mature. They haven't been working on this game for 12 years. So considering you started you post with an immature insult AND an incorrect statement, am I to trust the rest of your post should be discarded?
....and yes, it gets worse.
lol....grow up. You don't have a valid point. You're just having a tantrum. Timeout chair? Yes, I think you need a 5 minute break.
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I would be happy to invest in your idea.
grats on post 666........lol
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wow.... just wow..... I'm being criticized for criticizing someone who is criticizing people for criticizing a game, and his final point is that cuss words make his "mature" mind shut down apparently. Too bad hypocrisy doesn't have the same effect. If I'm having a "tantrum" then are you going senile and about to ask me to reach into the hole in your pocket?
Yes, it is difficult to maintain servers with a lot of traffic. More stress tests can always be performed. But if only a handful of people are complaining (very loudly, mind you) out of the many, many people who purchased it, Blizzard did a hell of a job.
But one thing I cannot stand is people comparing software to televisions. Please, stop the madness.
You're being "criticized" for calling me a "pussy" and a "shitface" for thinking people are being immature about this. How ironic, aye?
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Swearing and misinformation won't work to your favor. There's better ways to get your point across, regardless if it's correct or incorrect. I got my first infraction last night losing my temper with stupid people. This game hasn't been in development for 12 years, so the argument does lose validity.
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The hacking probably wasn't even hacking. It was probably kids getting suckered into a phishing scam. There's a big difference.
It's truly sad to see how many people complain over a little maintenance. When any game goes down for maintenance nobody complains, but because it's "big Bad Blizzard" let's all jump on the bandwagon and complain. Games have maintenance all the time. Just because Diablo 3 is having some issues doesn't make the game bad. the game on the contrary is pretty good, and to some extraordinary. So to say that the game is bad because "it's unplayable" is stupid because it is very much playable.
Off Topic: Some hate spewing retards over at metacritic have been saying "This is the last time I'll ever buy an EA product again." I laughed.
I think it's relatively funny that everyone in this thread who is bitching happens to be throwing around insults at people who don't agree with them. So far I'm cattle and an idiot, anything else to add? Because your amazing vocabulary only further proves that you're incapable of forming a competent argument without using words you could hear any 12 year old who plays CoD every day screaming over the microphone when someone kills them. You knew coming in that Diablo 3 was going to be an online only game, if that was too much for you to handle then you should have rethought your purchase. Blizzard isn't going to sit down with everyone who wants D3 and ask them how to make it the way THEY want it, Blizzard is going to make the game Blizzard wants to. It's not their fault if you purchase the game knowing how it's going to operate just to bitch about it. It's YOUR fault.