I remember a friend of mine burned me a copy of D1 just before D2 came out. I fell in love with it and only stopped playing because I died in hell and was unable to get back to my body and retrieve my gear.
I was sooo excited to get D2 and was crushed when I found out that my computer at the time couldnt run it. I would go to a neighbor kids house, who I didnt even like, just so i could watch him play it. It took 2 looong years to save up enough money to get a new rig for myself. Again LOVED D2 and played it for a solid 4 or 5 years.
and here I am again more excited than ever to play D3. absolutley cannot wait!
The d2 fans are here it's just that there are far more gamers now then there were in the D2 days so you're going to meet a lot more people who aren't d2 vets.
I don't get it? What is it that you call a "true" diablo fan? because you hint that people playing wow and sc2 are NOT "true"diablo fans... does that involve other games?
For instance, I'm playing lol, wc3, tf2 and l4d2... Haven't touched d2 since open beta weekend... Does that make me a "true" fan?
It depends, if you're a D2-like system nostalgic, then you're a true Diablo fan, because I have decided that D2 represents the nature of what a TRUE Diablo game should be like (and it happens to be the kind of system I enjoy).
If you think all those casual-catering changes are good, then you're not a true Diablo fan, because I said so.
/irony
What if I love both the D2 system and the D3 system? I consider myself a true diablo-fan just as any Joe blow would in this thread. I fell into obsession with D1, D2, and just because I like the changes they're making with the D3 system while also equally liking the D2 system, that makes me not a true fan?
True fans can cope with change, if you do nothing but cry about how different the D3 system is in comparison to the D2 system (pointing absolutely no fingers at anyone here) then that's fine, but those who call themselves 'True Diablo-fans' refuse to buy the game because of a that change aren't really fans now are they.
It's almost like what people do with games that have sequels and so on. They loved the first game, referred to themselves as a die-hard fan but as soon as the sequel came out all these changes were made. They didn't like the changes at all, still bought the game but they just didn't enjoy it quite enough. These may not be game-changing changes mind you, just ones similar to the D2 to D3 comparison.
Really what we're dealing with here is fans of a game rather than a franchise. I think that's where some people get confused. If you love the franchise then you can take changes like they've made into your stride, brush it off - doesn't make you lose sleep at all! you are a True Diablo-fan. Though If you just liked one game, say D2 (you liked D1 and D3 but D2 was the peak of awesomeness, the deal-sealer, you would write a report on how awesome you thought it was, in your opinon) then you just like that particular game don't you? This in my opinion makes you a Diablo-fan. Not a true Diablo-fan.
Anyway that's my two cents, hopefully you don't take this the wrong way.
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Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
Do you not consider them fans of their own game anymore?
"their own game" is a strange phrase, seeing as how almost none of the people there these days actually worked on D2.
Who really cares? Judge D3 on its own merits, and if you're sucked in by the marketing and things like exocet and Cain to think that there's any connection, that's your own gullibility.
Or maybe they stay off these forums. I may be wrong but after being on this site for a couple of years and playing the beta since January, it feels like there are ALOT of WOW ans SC2 players and new diablo players buzzing around d3, in-game and out. There's nothing wrong with that but most of the complaints about D3 come from them. I keep seeing questions and topics being made and thinking to myself "Really? Have they even played D2?". I remember back in the day when people were drooling over just to get a Bonesnap Maul for their barb and when Magic Arrow was a nuclear bomb. has Diablo lost fans?
Im sorry but magic arrow was never a fucking nuclear bomb. Shave that neckbeard and piss off.
Been playing Diablo 2 on and off since 2000. I can't say I'm the biggest fan, but that's because I know a lot of people on Diablofans have been here longer than me and are still here, every day, in hopes that this game will live up to it's predecessor.
What if I love both the D2 system and the D3 system? I consider myself a true diablo-fan just as any Joe blow would in this thread. I fell into obsession with D1, D2, and just because I like the changes they're making with the D3 system while also equally liking the D2 system, that makes me not a true fan?
True fans can cope with change, if you do nothing but cry about how different the D3 system is in comparison to the D2 system (pointing absolutely no fingers at anyone here) then that's fine, but those who call themselves 'True Diablo-fans' refuse to buy the game because of a that change aren't really fans now are they.
It's almost like what people do with games that have sequels and so on. They loved the first game, referred to themselves as a die-hard fan but as soon as the sequel came out all these changes were made. They didn't like the changes at all, still bought the game but they just didn't enjoy it quite enough. These may not be game-changing changes mind you, just ones similar to the D2 to D3 comparison.
Really what we're dealing with here is fans of a game rather than a franchise. I think that's where some people get confused. If you love the franchise then you can take changes like they've made into your stride, brush it off - doesn't make you lose sleep at all! you are a True Diablo-fan. Though If you just liked one game, say D2 (you liked D1 and D3 but D2 was the peak of awesomeness, the deal-sealer, you would write a report on how awesome you thought it was, in your opinon) then you just like that particular game don't you? This in my opinion makes you a Diablo-fan. Not a true Diablo-fan.
Anyway that's my two cents, hopefully you don't take this the wrong way.
I don't get it? What is it that you call a "true" diablo fan? because you hint that people playing wow and sc2 are NOT "true"diablo fans... does that involve other games?
For instance, I'm playing lol, wc3, tf2 and l4d2... Haven't touched d2 since open beta weekend... Does that make me a "true" fan?
It depends, if you're a D2-like system nostalgic, then you're a true Diablo fan, because I have decided that D2 represents the nature of what a TRUE Diablo game should be like (and it happens to be the kind of system I enjoy).
If you think all those casual-catering changes are good, then you're not a true Diablo fan, because I said so.
/irony
[snip]
Anyway that's my two cents, hopefully you don't take this the wrong way.
I don't get it? What is it that you call a "true" diablo fan? because you hint that people playing wow and sc2 are NOT "true"diablo fans... does that involve other games?
For instance, I'm playing lol, wc3, tf2 and l4d2... Haven't touched d2 since open beta weekend... Does that make me a "true" fan?
It depends, if you're a D2-like system nostalgic, then you're a true Diablo fan, because I have decided that D2 represents the nature of what a TRUE Diablo game should be like (and it happens to be the kind of system I enjoy).
If you think all those casual-catering changes are good, then you're not a true Diablo fan, because I said so.
/irony
[snip]
Anyway that's my two cents, hopefully you don't take this the wrong way.
Someone didn't understand the /irony tag?
No no I saw it, I just thought I'd says what I said anyway.
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Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
I was sooo excited to get D2 and was crushed when I found out that my computer at the time couldnt run it. I would go to a neighbor kids house, who I didnt even like, just so i could watch him play it. It took 2 looong years to save up enough money to get a new rig for myself. Again LOVED D2 and played it for a solid 4 or 5 years.
and here I am again more excited than ever to play D3. absolutley cannot wait!
True fans can cope with change, if you do nothing but cry about how different the D3 system is in comparison to the D2 system (pointing absolutely no fingers at anyone here) then that's fine, but those who call themselves 'True Diablo-fans' refuse to buy the game because of a that change aren't really fans now are they.
It's almost like what people do with games that have sequels and so on. They loved the first game, referred to themselves as a die-hard fan but as soon as the sequel came out all these changes were made. They didn't like the changes at all, still bought the game but they just didn't enjoy it quite enough. These may not be game-changing changes mind you, just ones similar to the D2 to D3 comparison.
Really what we're dealing with here is fans of a game rather than a franchise. I think that's where some people get confused. If you love the franchise then you can take changes like they've made into your stride, brush it off - doesn't make you lose sleep at all! you are a True Diablo-fan. Though If you just liked one game, say D2 (you liked D1 and D3 but D2 was the peak of awesomeness, the deal-sealer, you would write a report on how awesome you thought it was, in your opinon) then you just like that particular game don't you? This in my opinion makes you a Diablo-fan. Not a true Diablo-fan.
Anyway that's my two cents, hopefully you don't take this the wrong way.
Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
Blizzard themselves said there was a ton of things wrong in D2. Do you not consider them fans of their own game anymore?
"their own game" is a strange phrase, seeing as how almost none of the people there these days actually worked on D2.
Who really cares? Judge D3 on its own merits, and if you're sucked in by the marketing and things like exocet and Cain to think that there's any connection, that's your own gullibility.
Im sorry but magic arrow was never a fucking nuclear bomb. Shave that neckbeard and piss off.
lol...
Well said.
Someone didn't understand the /irony tag?
Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
Yeah right, who in their right mind would own 2 cottages. I think you made that part up.