This is pretty random, but I was thinking about a Jay Wilson quote this afternoon. I remember him saying "No one will remember if it is late, only if it is great."
Now I would agree with him, but I still remember Half-Life 2 being over a year late. Granted Half-Life 2 was also a really great game, but I still clearly remember upgrading my computer with a Radeon 9800 Pro just for Half-Life 2 only to have it come out over a year later after it's first set in stone release date. It doesn't matter how great a game is in my opinion. If a great game is really late or has a super long development cycle people will still remember that.
Just to make it completely clear I am not complaining about Diablo 3 being late or anything like that. We've never been given any sort of release date, unless you count the November 2011 target release window they gave us. I am just taking a Jay Wilson quote and disagreeing with his sentiment on the matter.
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"No one gets to heaven 'til they've lived awhile in hell and even then it's rare that you'll be going there."
I think what he was going for was no one will remain angry about the push back if the game is great, if he was purely thinking people would forget it was pushed back, then I guess we all have alzheimers.
I think what he was going for was no one will remain angry about the push back if the game is great, if he was purely thinking people would forget it was pushed back, then I guess we all have alzheimers.
Good point, that makes a lot of sense. I didn't see it like that.
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"No one gets to heaven 'til they've lived awhile in hell and even then it's rare that you'll be going there."
Yeah, well the entire time I played SCII multiplayer all they did was talk about how the game had FINALLY come out and that they were pretty miffed at how long it took.
So yeah, Jay Wilson of course they won't remember it for how long it took.
/sarcasm
The fans will remember (I and probably most of the people on this forum), but the majority of people who play the game won't if they even know about it in the first place.
A good friend of mine from college is really excited about this game to come out, but he doesn't keep up with the series at all. He'll play it when it comes out and he won't even know that it was delayed.
if you saw and read the quote first and not the boobs I have some bad news for you.
"No one will remember if it is late, only if it is great." - If the first "if" was replaced by "that", it would've had a complete different meaning. "That" would imply the 2011-2012 delay, so the current quote is about the system change's made up delay.
It's as if he is implying the game might not be late, unless he talks about the 2011-2012 delay, but that doesn't make sense, that delay was 5 months ago...perhaps he knew we will think that the game is getting "delayed again" and will QQ.
Team Fortress 2 is a fine example. It was in development for about 10 years and when it finally came out well... lets just say i got it on release date and still play it nightly. It is my friend while Diablo 3 is not here, and a very good friend at that.
Diablo2 is really old, 10 years ago do people remember if it was late on production? The fact of the matter is that's a 10 year old game and people still play it because its amazing. When your playing D3 two or three years from now, you wont question why the game took a while to make. It is normal for game companies these days to take several years in creating a game, but creating a GREAT game should take longer. I dont have anymore patience than anyone else here, that is waiting for the game, but it has to be balanced and extremly polished because thats what blizzard does. Your not making diablo 3, im not, let the pros do what they do best, and leave it at that. If it takes another year to develop so be it. Obviously they are giving us what we want, by putting production time ahead of more development. They have listed tons of things they wanted to do to change it, but have decided to push that aside until the release of the game.
This is pretty random, but I was thinking about a Jay Wilson quote this afternoon. I remember him saying "No one will remember if it is late, only if it is great."
Now I would agree with him, but I still remember Half-Life 2 being over a year late. Granted Half-Life 2 was also a really great game, but I still clearly remember upgrading my computer with a Radeon 9800 Pro just for Half-Life 2 only to have it come out over a year later after it's first set in stone release date. It doesn't matter how great a game is in my opinion. If a great game is really late or has a super long development cycle people will still remember that.
Just to make it completely clear I am not complaining about Diablo 3 being late or anything like that. We've never been given any sort of release date, unless you count the November 2011 target release window they gave us. I am just taking a Jay Wilson quote and disagreeing with his sentiment on the matter.
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The fans will remember (I and probably most of the people on this forum), but the majority of people who play the game won't if they even know about it in the first place.
This..
I remember everything! Its both a curse and a blessing. The beta will haunt me, thinking How Diablo 3 could've bin.. When people will ask me from 1-3 years from now "Have you heard about the game called Diablo 3", I dont know if Im gonna cry or laugh.
Sooooo... You're making this thread to complain that you will still complain when the game is released? I swear... you people.
I didn't make the thread to complain that I would still complain when the game came out. If it seemed that I was complaining than that was completely unintentional. I was just saying that from the point of view of someone who's been following Diablo 3 for a long time it will be unlikely that I would forget something like a delay in the development cycle and/or release date. That's all.
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"No one gets to heaven 'til they've lived awhile in hell and even then it's rare that you'll be going there."
Sooooo... You're making this thread to complain that you will still complain when the game is released? I swear... you people.
I didn't make the thread to complain that I would still complain when the game came out. If it seemed that I was complaining than that was completely unintentional. I was just saying that from the point of view of someone who's been following Diablo 3 for a long time it will be unlikely that I would forget something like a delay in the development cycle and/or release date. That's all.
Understandable, as i've been following since some leaked info when i was playing D2 in like 2003 =D But realize this game is almost still completely on track. Not until mid-late 2006 did they get the new team fully assembled and started working on D3 from scratch. They wanted to release it in late 2011 making it about a 5 year process, which for a company to work solely on a game IS long, but realize they were working on WoW and Sc2 as well, and I believe they pulled D3's team for almost a year to work on SC2 at one point. They've only had one delay really, and so far it's only been at the most 2 months, if they planned on releasing in November 2011. It's only late january now =P Fast forward 5 years after it's release; The delay might be a joke to a small few who followed really closely, but for the vast majority they won't even have known.
The game is not a year late, right now it is 2-3 months. You probably remembered Half Life 2 because of your upgrade. While you are playing the game or comparing it to another one you probably won't think about the delay at all.
But if the game comes out really buggy with broken mechanics that would be corrected in patches along a year, you probably will remember for the rest of your life how "Diablo 3 was great only after Patch 1.07". And I'm not even talking about the greatly increased complexity to correct game mechanics with patches to a working game in comparison with a beta wipe-everything-out-all-the-time.
I think that Jay is just too right, but we fans want the game so much that we force ourselves to believe that the best option is to release the game right away. But if you ask for a non-fan he will probably agree with Jay.
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Now I would agree with him, but I still remember Half-Life 2 being over a year late. Granted Half-Life 2 was also a really great game, but I still clearly remember upgrading my computer with a Radeon 9800 Pro just for Half-Life 2 only to have it come out over a year later after it's first set in stone release date. It doesn't matter how great a game is in my opinion. If a great game is really late or has a super long development cycle people will still remember that.
Just to make it completely clear I am not complaining about Diablo 3 being late or anything like that. We've never been given any sort of release date, unless you count the November 2011 target release window they gave us. I am just taking a Jay Wilson quote and disagreeing with his sentiment on the matter.
Good point, that makes a lot of sense. I didn't see it like that.
So yeah, Jay Wilson of course they won't remember it for how long it took.
/sarcasm
The fans will remember (I and probably most of the people on this forum), but the majority of people who play the game won't if they even know about it in the first place.
A good friend of mine from college is really excited about this game to come out, but he doesn't keep up with the series at all. He'll play it when it comes out and he won't even know that it was delayed.
if you saw and read the quote first and not the boobs I have some bad news for you.
"No one will remember if it is late, only if it is great." - If the first "if" was replaced by "that", it would've had a complete different meaning. "That" would imply the 2011-2012 delay, so the current quote is about the system change's made up delay.
It's as if he is implying the game might not be late, unless he talks about the 2011-2012 delay, but that doesn't make sense, that delay was 5 months ago...perhaps he knew we will think that the game is getting "delayed again" and will QQ.
But this is just another over-analyzation...
New word learned.
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This..
I remember everything! Its both a curse and a blessing. The beta will haunt me, thinking How Diablo 3 could've bin.. When people will ask me from 1-3 years from now "Have you heard about the game called Diablo 3", I dont know if Im gonna cry or laugh.
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I didn't make the thread to complain that I would still complain when the game came out. If it seemed that I was complaining than that was completely unintentional. I was just saying that from the point of view of someone who's been following Diablo 3 for a long time it will be unlikely that I would forget something like a delay in the development cycle and/or release date. That's all.
Understandable, as i've been following since some leaked info when i was playing D2 in like 2003 =D But realize this game is almost still completely on track. Not until mid-late 2006 did they get the new team fully assembled and started working on D3 from scratch. They wanted to release it in late 2011 making it about a 5 year process, which for a company to work solely on a game IS long, but realize they were working on WoW and Sc2 as well, and I believe they pulled D3's team for almost a year to work on SC2 at one point. They've only had one delay really, and so far it's only been at the most 2 months, if they planned on releasing in November 2011. It's only late january now =P Fast forward 5 years after it's release; The delay might be a joke to a small few who followed really closely, but for the vast majority they won't even have known.
But if the game comes out really buggy with broken mechanics that would be corrected in patches along a year, you probably will remember for the rest of your life how "Diablo 3 was great only after Patch 1.07". And I'm not even talking about the greatly increased complexity to correct game mechanics with patches to a working game in comparison with a beta wipe-everything-out-all-the-time.
I think that Jay is just too right, but we fans want the game so much that we force ourselves to believe that the best option is to release the game right away. But if you ask for a non-fan he will probably agree with Jay.