It's breaking news on D3 from S.Korea. It says that D3 was not brought up for discussion at the board meeting today on Jan 4th 2012 and that there is no ETA when the board will dicuss the issue again in the future. In short, there is another delay. Here is a link for it. (The article is written in Korean. You need a translator.) http://www.newstomat....aspx?no=213954
(Addition #1)
This friday morning on Jan 6th 2012, members of GRB in S.Korea had a meeting to rate games and the result has just been posted at its web site. There is no D3. So I have made a phone call at GRB to double check that is true. The answer is there is no result on D3 today. At this moment there is no news on when the board will handle D3.
Well as much as I'd love to say eff korea, I realize just how big of a market it is for Blizzard and other game companies. So they defiantly won't abandon it. BUT, I'm hoping it gets put on the back burner so the rest of the world can actually enjoy the game.
Looks like next consideration going to happen on Friday..
I just don't get why the GBR is so full of shit! Blizz already took out the cash-out option even though their initial submission (with cash-out option) was already legally within the bounds of the law.
From what I understand from the situation, the committe never revealed which day exactly they were gonna handle the rating. But, with meetings being held on wednesdays and fridays, people automatically assumed that it would be on wednesday.
Anyway, heres what little I know about the situation.
Before the current GRB came to place, the VRB[video rating board] has been in charge of the rating of games, movies, music etc. The reason the VRB was scrapped was because it was respondible for passing the game 'Seastory' http://cfs15.tistory...7/498acd1ccc62d
yeah, I know, most of the Korean populace was thinking the same thing. 'WTF?'
When the game became controversial due to illegal modifications investigations were put into place and.. as it turns out, there were bribes and manipulations of rules behind the passing of this 'legal slot machine' [which was responsible for wrecking several families] and thus the GRB was born and we can see here why it would be sensitive about issues that concern real money.
But this organization has also brought up some controversies of it's own.
First, the rating progress is overly complicated and the fees attached are unreasonably high, there is no clear guidlines in how a game is rated so there's no way for game companies to know if they have been rated fairly. And there's also the problem that this board is not really up to date on the fast paced change of the gaming industry.
Second, the board had promised to rate game only up to last year and transfer the rights to rate games to the public but they backed out of that promise and applied for a new budget last year and the national assembly approved it.
Furthermore, Blizzard could not have chosen a worse timing to bring up the RMAH in Korea [not that there's anything they could have done about the situation]
Last november, a new law was proposed that would illegalize any real money trade in games that underages are able to play. And yes, the [legal] real money trading sites are doing all they can to fight against this but things don't look bright for them. There was also an incident of a middle school student suicide to which games were somewhat related to during July.
So we pretty much have a really screwed up situation here, and the GRB isn't doing any help to make things less complicated.
You see Blizzard, being aware of the new law against underage real money trade, had applied for a mature rating for Diablo 3. And yet the GRB held the 'anti-gambling'stance claiming that those of underage 'might' still play the game.
Yeah, what kind of phail-logic is that? Why the f- do they rate games anyway if they're going to consider the possibility of someone underage playing despite the mature rating?
But nonetheless Diablo 3 has been dragged into the 'real money in games' issue and the GRB is in a tricky situation to try to prove the need of their existance through this issue.'
Some think that this is all because of bribes to protect the domestic game industry, some people think it's because of the lack of bribes on Blizzard's part.
But if the reason is the latter, I [a Korean if you haven't figured that out yet] personally hope that Blizzard will give the GRB a good ol middle finger and pass Korea. The worthless low-end bureaucracy here is really f'd up and it would be bad if they're spoiled more than they already are [sheesh, at least the high-end works their ass's off]
As for me.. don't know. IF that is to happen I guess I'll just have to get a US copy and proxy or something
From what I understand from the situation, the committe never revealed which day exactly they were gonna handle the rating. But, with meetings being held on wednesdays and fridays, people automatically assumed that it would be on wednesday.
Anyway, heres what little I know about the situation.
Before the current GRB came to place, the VRB[video rating board] has been in charge of the rating of games, movies, music etc. The reason the VRB was scrapped was because it was respondible for passing the game 'Seastory' http://cfs15.tistory...7/498acd1ccc62d
yeah, I know, most of the Korean populace was thinking the same thing. 'WTF?'
When the game became controversial due to illegal modifications investigations were put into place and.. as it turns out, there were bribes and manipulations of rules behind the passing of this 'legal slot machine' [which was responsible for wrecking several families] and thus the GRB was born and we can see here why it would be sensitive about issues that concern real money.
But this organization has also brought up some controversies of it's own.
First, the rating progress is overly complicated and the fees attached are unreasonably high, there is no clear guidlines in how a game is rated so there's no way for game companies to know if they have been rated fairly. And there's also the problem that this board is not really up to date on the fast paced change of the gaming industry.
Second, the board had promised to rate game only up to last year and transfer the rights to rate games to the public but they backed out of that promise and applied for a new budget last year and the national assembly approved it.
Furthermore, Blizzard could not have chosen a worse timing to bring up the RMAH in Korea [not that there's anything they could have done about the situation]
Last november, a new law was proposed that would illegalize any real money trade in games that underages are able to play. And yes, the [legal] real money trading sites are doing all they can to fight against this but things don't look bright for them. There was also an incident of a middle school student suicide to which games were somewhat related to during July.
So we pretty much have a really screwed up situation here, and the GRB isn't doing any help to make things less complicated.
You see Blizzard, being aware of the new law against underage real money trade, had applied for a mature rating for Diablo 3. And yet the GRB held the 'anti-gambling'stance claiming that those of underage 'might' still play the game.
Yeah, what kind of phail-logic is that? Why the f- do they rate games anyway if they're going to consider the possibility of someone underage playing despite the mature rating?
But nonetheless Diablo 3 has been dragged into the 'real money in games' issue and the GRB is in a tricky situation to try to prove the need of their existance through this issue.'
Some think that this is all because of bribes to protect the domestic game industry, some people think it's because of the lack of bribes on Blizzard's part.
But if the reason is the latter, I [a Korean if you haven't figured that out yet] personally hope that Blizzard will give the GRB a good ol middle finger and pass Korea. The worthless low-end bureaucracy here is really f'd up and it would be bad if they're spoiled more than they already are [sheesh, at least the high-end works their ass's off]
As for me.. don't know. IF that is to happen I guess I'll just have to get a US copy and proxy or something
Thanks for the insight! My only complaint is that you should have paragraphs...I almost didn't read it!! :Thumbs Up: No disrespect to you or Korea, but the GBR do have something stuck up their ass...it's not the GBR's (or before Nov VGA) fault if under aged children get their hands on mature games...their job is just to check if the game doesn't have any illegal gambling ect. what happens after they've made their decision isn't their fault! (unless they approved something illegal, but we all know D3 and it's RMAH is 100% legal).
What was the reason for the kid's suicide? If it had nothing to do with the legality of the game, it isn't their fault (sorry if that sounds insensitive). And I think the time has come for Blizz to bribe the shit out of the GBR
you must have caught my post when the edit function was messing up on me.
as for the suicide incident tldr; the 'bullies' were 'deeply immersed' in a game and has been forcing the victim to play and pay up for cash items. the victim was caught sending a letter to her teacher about the situation and she commited suicide.
edit : here's some interesting news
it seems like they gave 'Bomberman' a mature rating because of a roulette that shows up mid-game. they believed that it encouraged gambling behavior.
Man I hope people will finally start to understand that Korea is the problem, and not everything else. I don't know how it can't be obvious any longer unless you aren't actually informed of what has lead up to all this and what is going on currently.
Seriously, people.
You want this game out faster?
Start speaking your mind and demanding it. We all KNOW this game should have been out in November.
Now we all KNOW that S.Korea is the reason we are not playing it and wont be playing it for months to come.
This is a sure sign of another delay. Thats not being sarcastic either. Mark my words there will be another delay.
ugh, the reason why they didn't even put Diablo 3 for rating today is because they were busy giving ratings for 50 other games. And Diablo 3 has been on the waiting list since last year December 2....
Looks like Blizzard is just as baffled as everyone else seeing how they too were expecting a rating today.
Ratings refused due to RMAH on December 2nd, and the rating for the version without the cash-out feature on December 22nd was delayed without any clear reason.
To make things worse, the GRB is being really vague about friday as well saying that there can be a 'change of schedule'.
I'm not much into conspiracy theorys but this is just getting too fishy
Perhaps its all an elaborate plot, Blizzard doesnt want us to play Diablo III and they are paying the GRB to look like the bad guys and soak the crap, while in reality its just Blzizard having a massive laugh!
Nah, I was more thinking about the GRB not wanting to take responsibility yet running out of excuses to delay the rating process.
Honestly at this point I'm starting to wish that Blizzard would scrap KR release and just pull a WTO national treatment principle on the GRB. It sure worked well with the whiskey case
Honestly? Fuck S.Korea, one country should not hold the game back for the rest of the world. They can easily work out the S.Korea details after the game is released elsewhere. I sincerely hope this isn't actually delaying the game for the rest of us.
Honestly? Fuck S.Korea, one country should not hold the game back for the rest of the world. They can easily work out the S.Korea details after the game is released elsewhere. I sincerely hope this isn't actually delaying the game for the rest of us.
When one country is a big part of the Market you can't just do that when you are called Activision. I mean, Blizzard.
I wonder when Blizz will finally officially say something regarding Korea and the RMAH...cause they know everybody on the internet knows about it and want some fucking answers!!
Seriously if Korea doesn't give us an answer by Friday Blizz should just go ahead and release the game except in Korea...delaying the game, waiting for Korea to approve, and finally releasing the game in June might end up doing more damage than releasing everywhere except in Korea and release in Feb/March...
Its time to let go of any hope. All is lost now. A delay is on the horizon, we all know it now.
My hype and want for this game has turned into something pathetic, something only a fragment of what it used to be, something I know I used to want, but am unsure of any more. Ive not even played D3 and I feel like Im burnt out on the concept already.
This can only end in disappointment. When a final decision
is
rendered and game still isn't released, finally people will realize the two weren't linked, as stated. But then the game still won't be out, so still no one is happy. I suppose those are just the ups and downs you have to expect when following something so closely.
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Well, that does not prove that those things are not linked
And btw it looks we won't be hearing the release date even of GRB would give rating now...
Yes it does prove, yet again, the delay and Korea are not linked. You can't get much clearer. How many official statements from Blizzard explicitly stating Korea was not the reason for the delay will it take before you guys get off the conspiracy theory crap? I believe we are up to 5 now. Perhaps we need to see 5 more before some people will get it?
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(Addition #1)
This friday morning on Jan 6th 2012, members of GRB in S.Korea had a meeting to rate games and the result has just been posted at its web site. There is no D3. So I have made a phone call at GRB to double check that is true. The answer is there is no result on D3 today. At this moment there is no news on when the board will handle D3.
Now it will be interesting to see what Blizz do about it...Blizz better not delay the game any further...
Ps. I hate people so much lawl.
I just don't get why the GBR is so full of shit! Blizz already took out the cash-out option even though their initial submission (with cash-out option) was already legally within the bounds of the law.
Anyway, heres what little I know about the situation.
Before the current GRB came to place, the VRB[video rating board] has been in charge of the rating of games, movies, music etc. The reason the VRB was scrapped was because it was respondible for passing the game 'Seastory' http://cfs15.tistory...7/498acd1ccc62d
yeah, I know, most of the Korean populace was thinking the same thing. 'WTF?'
When the game became controversial due to illegal modifications investigations were put into place and.. as it turns out, there were bribes and manipulations of rules behind the passing of this 'legal slot machine' [which was responsible for wrecking several families] and thus the GRB was born and we can see here why it would be sensitive about issues that concern real money.
But this organization has also brought up some controversies of it's own.
First, the rating progress is overly complicated and the fees attached are unreasonably high, there is no clear guidlines in how a game is rated so there's no way for game companies to know if they have been rated fairly. And there's also the problem that this board is not really up to date on the fast paced change of the gaming industry.
Second, the board had promised to rate game only up to last year and transfer the rights to rate games to the public but they backed out of that promise and applied for a new budget last year and the national assembly approved it.
Furthermore, Blizzard could not have chosen a worse timing to bring up the RMAH in Korea [not that there's anything they could have done about the situation]
Last november, a new law was proposed that would illegalize any real money trade in games that underages are able to play. And yes, the [legal] real money trading sites are doing all they can to fight against this but things don't look bright for them. There was also an incident of a middle school student suicide to which games were somewhat related to during July.
So we pretty much have a really screwed up situation here, and the GRB isn't doing any help to make things less complicated.
You see Blizzard, being aware of the new law against underage real money trade, had applied for a mature rating for Diablo 3. And yet the GRB held the 'anti-gambling'stance claiming that those of underage 'might' still play the game.
Yeah, what kind of phail-logic is that? Why the f- do they rate games anyway if they're going to consider the possibility of someone underage playing despite the mature rating?
But nonetheless Diablo 3 has been dragged into the 'real money in games' issue and the GRB is in a tricky situation to try to prove the need of their existance through this issue.'
Some think that this is all because of bribes to protect the domestic game industry, some people think it's because of the lack of bribes on Blizzard's part.
But if the reason is the latter, I [a Korean if you haven't figured that out yet] personally hope that Blizzard will give the GRB a good ol middle finger and pass Korea. The worthless low-end bureaucracy here is really f'd up and it would be bad if they're spoiled more than they already are [sheesh, at least the high-end works their ass's off]
As for me.. don't know. IF that is to happen I guess I'll just have to get a US copy and proxy or something
Thanks for the insight! My only complaint is that you should have paragraphs...I almost didn't read it!! :Thumbs Up: No disrespect to you or Korea, but the GBR do have something stuck up their ass...it's not the GBR's (or before Nov VGA) fault if under aged children get their hands on mature games...their job is just to check if the game doesn't have any illegal gambling ect. what happens after they've made their decision isn't their fault! (unless they approved something illegal, but we all know D3 and it's RMAH is 100% legal).
What was the reason for the kid's suicide? If it had nothing to do with the legality of the game, it isn't their fault (sorry if that sounds insensitive). And I think the time has come for Blizz to bribe the shit out of the GBR
Edit: Nevermind the paragraphs...
you must have caught my post when the edit function was messing up on me.
as for the suicide incident tldr; the 'bullies' were 'deeply immersed' in a game and has been forcing the victim to play and pay up for cash items. the victim was caught sending a letter to her teacher about the situation and she commited suicide.
edit : here's some interesting news
it seems like they gave 'Bomberman' a mature rating because of a roulette that shows up mid-game. they believed that it encouraged gambling behavior.
kind of shows how their mind works huh?
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believe me, vanilla and TBC had their own share of drama during the rating process.
Seriously, people.
You want this game out faster?
Start speaking your mind and demanding it. We all KNOW this game should have been out in November.
Now we all KNOW that S.Korea is the reason we are not playing it and wont be playing it for months to come.
This is a sure sign of another delay. Thats not being sarcastic either. Mark my words there will be another delay.
Looks like Blizzard is just as baffled as everyone else seeing how they too were expecting a rating today.
Ratings refused due to RMAH on December 2nd, and the rating for the version without the cash-out feature on December 22nd was delayed without any clear reason.
To make things worse, the GRB is being really vague about friday as well saying that there can be a 'change of schedule'.
I'm not much into conspiracy theorys but this is just getting too fishy
Nah, I was more thinking about the GRB not wanting to take responsibility yet running out of excuses to delay the rating process.
Honestly at this point I'm starting to wish that Blizzard would scrap KR release and just pull a WTO national treatment principle on the GRB. It sure worked well with the whiskey case
Seriously if Korea doesn't give us an answer by Friday Blizz should just go ahead and release the game except in Korea...delaying the game, waiting for Korea to approve, and finally releasing the game in June might end up doing more damage than releasing everywhere except in Korea and release in Feb/March...
My hype and want for this game has turned into something pathetic, something only a fragment of what it used to be, something I know I used to want, but am unsure of any more. Ive not even played D3 and I feel like Im burnt out on the concept already.
Yes it does prove, yet again, the delay and Korea are not linked. You can't get much clearer. How many official statements from Blizzard explicitly stating Korea was not the reason for the delay will it take before you guys get off the conspiracy theory crap? I believe we are up to 5 now. Perhaps we need to see 5 more before some people will get it?