What's really fucked up is the GR meta in this game. Eventually progression slows down once you have all gear ancient at let's say 85% perfection. At that point all you have to do is level up gems/paragons/augment items. The problem with this is that is conditionated by the people you play GRs with. Public GRs lobbies are a complete shitshow and a good and stable group is hard to find.
You could say there is a lot of builds to try out. But the effectiveness is always conditionated by gems/paragons/augments. At that point you probably quit the game until next season just to see what's new. I haven't played PoE but i'm quite sure it's much better than D3 at this point. Playing for leaderboards takes an insane amount of time and even solo leaderboards requires to go multiplayer just for the upgrades.
I was really excited for Primal Ancient items this season. But after seeing that you can get 2 or more bad rolls on them making your ancient item better than the "end game" item, i'm not excited anymore.
Both games has advantages and disadvantages. PoE is in great shape right now and will be insanely better with a huge 3.0 expansion (where all game difficulties are no more).
Necromancer, on the other hand will have people playin for maybe a week or two. Maybe a month to farm all ancient legendary gear and sets and that's all, it's exhausted. Diablo 3 cannot compete with any MMO atm because there is simply not enough content added. 1 reworked legendary in 3 months is not enough.
I dropped PoE about 2 years ago for the reasons stated above: shitty grapphics, awkward gameplay. But decided to return for current league and oh my gawd the game is so much better now. It's insane how it has improved over last 2 years. And leaderboards are just a small thing in PoE. there's racing events and such which happen during and between the leagues, plenty of stuff. Patches are daily. A lot of things to do. Do maps or farm cards or do prophecies or run in magic find gear or kill bosses. There's also 126 unique maps to explore lol. ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX maps lol. I only cleared 56 for now and league ends in 2 weeks.
Both games are good, both games have pros and cons. But D3 is for people who want to grind and make leaderboards. More casuals are drawn to poe because of "diversity" and casuals make up the majority of the player base. D3 is a great game but needs a new face.
Strongly disagree in this point.
D3 now is left for stubborn botters mostly. Leaderboards are long time ruined by botting.
+ some casuals who started playing seasons on console.
Most old competetitive players long time left to PoE, WOW and other games. Look at Alkaizer, Quin, Datmodz, Kripp, Empyrian, wudijo, Chainer. Some might be back (me including) when Necro comes out, but not for long.
PoE is not for casuals at all, casual will understand nothing there, the learning curve is waaay to complex. Of cause you can click your way through mercy but you know It takes a while to learn everything.
Botters have not flooded the leaderboard and if they did they will be banned anyway.
Alkaizer hates everything btw and chainer still plays... Datmodz and Quinn are playing WoW not Poe. Kripp likes to play mostly Hs. Most of these players are streamers. There is still a ton of competitive players that are on D3. Just because they don't stream doesn't mean they don't exist.
You were just talking about wow look how much maps there are in poe. 80 percent of the maps are not even worth running. The learning curve is not complex people are just idiots and don't understand what's going on. That sounds harsh but I never have had an issue with PoE and people i have played with don't have an issue with it. Gameplay wise PoE is simpler, you usually have a ton of auras up and spam one ability the entire time or you can even go far as making a build that just plays itself.
Another thing is you have a huge amount of PoE players that are obnoxious. They come to a d3 forum and talk shit LOL. Who does that? The only time I even go on the poe forums is to set up shop but i never thought of talking shit. Bunch of noobs who come in and don't even know about the game theyre playing, bashing on a game someone else might like.
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all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
If you're playing D3 for nothing other than the leaderboards, you are missing the whole point of the game. It's supposed to be a fun hobby, not something to cry about once you realize your empty life isn't filled by accomplishments in a computer game. I ended up in a game with a bot last night and I wasn't complaining at all. It helped me get a ton of gear for my season wiz. I've been playing since D1 and all games are great. Perhaps if I was one of the best players then I too may be bored, but I play for fun and as of the last couple seasons am working to get all stash tabs. I got close last season and have beat GR 55 with 5 of the 6 required sets as of the time I post this. This will be my 2nd season to try for a stash tab and it should be my first time to get it. Pretty excited, not going to lie.
You sound mad. So if I want to play for leaderboards who are you to dictate that is wrong? More casual talk. The point of D3 is to grind and get the resources to push aka gain more power for your character. It's like that for EVERY single aarpg.
That's like me bashing you for not accomplishing anything in D3. It works both ways just because you're a casual and have a different opinion doesn't mean I'm playing the game wrong. What?
I don't care how you play the game but it always seems lesser players are always ready to get angry because someone decides to play the game differently from them. Why is that?
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"This forum has become far too toxic for any meaningful discussion of
the game. I hope they can sort this out and get back to making a game
we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
The problem is that they are not PoE players ranting about other games. They are actually Diablo fans that have grinded this game a lot and eventually decided to quit because of lack of new content and gameplay issues. They switched to PoE, WoW or any other game and they are giving their opinion on the current state of D3 after experimenting other things. I haven't ever played PoE but i might just try it out.
I was really excited for Primal Ancient items this season. But after seeing that you can get 2 or more bad rolls on them making your ancient item better than the "end game" item, i'm not excited anymore.
yea i was really excited aswell for the primals and i hoped version 1 will come back.
I don't think version 1 is a good deal. To be honest +20% stats that doesn't affect CHC, CHD and other things is not bery imaginative. What iactually wished is that you could reroll ANY properties on the primal ancient item that you found including secondaries. This would make them true end game items. If you get the legendary item that you want primal ancient you will never ever need another one which is a good deal considering the low drop rate. Just have them cost 50 souls 100 db and 200 of each mat to reroll properties. And maybe lock the main atribute of the Character that got it dropped (except for class items).
The problem is that they are not PoE players ranting about other games. They are actually Diablo fans that have grinded this game a lot and eventually decided to quit because of lack of new content and gameplay issues. They switched to PoE, WoW or any other game and they are giving their opinion on the current state of D3 after experimenting other things. I haven't ever played PoE but i might just try it out.
No those are the players that can't even solo a 70 and claim that they have played d3 a lot. Sorry but no.
Listen all you have to do is look at my armory. I've played WoW as a hardcore raider for some time before i quit that game, I played d3 and made top 10 in S3, S4, and s10. Not many people I have come across that talks smack D3 is a good player that had switched to PoE. This is simply false.
They're not giving opinions they are being bigoted and hateful towards D3 players for no reason. In this the general public of PoE are simply children. Like i said I have played both games and played them well and i have experienced both communities. If all you do is go to a Diablo fansite and bash players and a game, maybe you should direct some of your free time to the game you're actually playing and then those people would probably be better players and people.
There is a massive difference between D3 casual play and D3 competitive play. Only people who play for leaderboards and push in group grifts know this difference. There is a huge difference between grift 60 and a grift 105 solo. Not only in terms of how good your gear is but how you approach the grift.
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"This forum has become far too toxic for any meaningful discussion of
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we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
Just think only about the 5% player base that is pushing/grinding the gr meta. That's why you often see "D3 is dead" because the other 95% quit the game because of lack of content.
The problem is that they are not PoE players ranting about other games. They are actually Diablo fans that have grinded this game a lot and eventually decided to quit because of lack of new content and gameplay issues. They switched to PoE, WoW or any other game and they are giving their opinion on the current state of D3 after experimenting other things. I haven't ever played PoE but i might just try it out.
No those are the players that can't even solo a 70 and claim that they have played d3 a lot. Sorry but no.
Listen all you have to do is look at my armory. I've played WoW as a hardcore raider for some time before i quit that game, I played d3 and made top 10 in S3, S4, and s10. Not many people I have come across that talks smack D3 is a good player that had switched to PoE. This is simply false.
They're not giving opinions they are being bigoted and hateful towards D3 players for no reason. In this the general public of PoE are simply children. Like i said I have played both games and played them well and i have experienced both communities. If all you do is go to a Diablo fansite and bash players and a game, maybe you should direct some of your free time to the game you're actually playing and then those people would probably be better players and people.
There is a massive difference between D3 casual play and D3 competitive play. Only people who play for leaderboards and push in group grifts know this difference. There is a huge difference between grift 60 and a grift 105 solo. Not only in terms of how good your gear is but how you approach the grift.
LOL aparat of d3 bein shit game at current state and date, You "sir"
are the second one i quit d3. You are a perfect example of an idiot-fan
boy... U quoted my post and commented "casual brain dead talk". Dd u
even fuckin read it? aparently not cuz u would ahve read how many hours i
spent and and that i was twice top10? u r guess im not the one brain
dead here..
Whats ur acmoplishments apart of being an idiot on forum and contributin zero to the topic, only missinformation??
Like 2 nights ago I told this zsader to not shield glare on a boss because it resets the aggro and voids my stun lock. It also fucks with the lightning wiz. He got super butt hurt, "well I ran speed he 98s all the time and no one complained about me blinding." Checked his profile, highest group he completed was a GR80.
Half the veterans don't even realize why they hit this wall.
In terms of people who know what they are doing, yes the community is considered dead. Do I still play it? Yes, but not everyday anymore. My will to play a lot died after season 8 because I got my final tab. May be if we still gained more tabs per season, idk.
Yeah D3 vs. POE is just another of the billion examples of how combative and polarized so many people are: conservatives vs. liberals, Macs vs. PCs, Ford vs. Chevy, whites vs. blacks, straight vs gay...it just never ends. People put blinders on.
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What's really fucked up is the GR meta in this game. Eventually progression slows down once you have all gear ancient at let's say 85% perfection. At that point all you have to do is level up gems/paragons/augment items. The problem with this is that is conditionated by the people you play GRs with. Public GRs lobbies are a complete shitshow and a good and stable group is hard to find.
You could say there is a lot of builds to try out. But the effectiveness is always conditionated by gems/paragons/augments. At that point you probably quit the game until next season just to see what's new. I haven't played PoE but i'm quite sure it's much better than D3 at this point. Playing for leaderboards takes an insane amount of time and even solo leaderboards requires to go multiplayer just for the upgrades.
I was really excited for Primal Ancient items this season. But after seeing that you can get 2 or more bad rolls on them making your ancient item better than the "end game" item, i'm not excited anymore.
Alkaizer hates everything btw and chainer still plays... Datmodz and Quinn are playing WoW not Poe. Kripp likes to play mostly Hs. Most of these players are streamers. There is still a ton of competitive players that are on D3. Just because they don't stream doesn't mean they don't exist.
You were just talking about wow look how much maps there are in poe. 80 percent of the maps are not even worth running. The learning curve is not complex people are just idiots and don't understand what's going on. That sounds harsh but I never have had an issue with PoE and people i have played with don't have an issue with it. Gameplay wise PoE is simpler, you usually have a ton of auras up and spam one ability the entire time or you can even go far as making a build that just plays itself.
Another thing is you have a huge amount of PoE players that are obnoxious. They come to a d3 forum and talk shit LOL. Who does that? The only time I even go on the poe forums is to set up shop but i never thought of talking shit. Bunch of noobs who come in and don't even know about the game theyre playing, bashing on a game someone else might like.
"This forum has become far too toxic for any meaningful discussion of
the game. I hope they can sort this out and get back to making a game
we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
That's like me bashing you for not accomplishing anything in D3. It works both ways just because you're a casual and have a different opinion doesn't mean I'm playing the game wrong. What?
I don't care how you play the game but it always seems lesser players are always ready to get angry because someone decides to play the game differently from them. Why is that?
"This forum has become far too toxic for any meaningful discussion of
the game. I hope they can sort this out and get back to making a game
we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
The problem is that they are not PoE players ranting about other games. They are actually Diablo fans that have grinded this game a lot and eventually decided to quit because of lack of new content and gameplay issues. They switched to PoE, WoW or any other game and they are giving their opinion on the current state of D3 after experimenting other things. I haven't ever played PoE but i might just try it out.
I don't think version 1 is a good deal. To be honest +20% stats that doesn't affect CHC, CHD and other things is not bery imaginative. What iactually wished is that you could reroll ANY properties on the primal ancient item that you found including secondaries. This would make them true end game items. If you get the legendary item that you want primal ancient you will never ever need another one which is a good deal considering the low drop rate. Just have them cost 50 souls 100 db and 200 of each mat to reroll properties. And maybe lock the main atribute of the Character that got it dropped (except for class items).
Listen all you have to do is look at my armory. I've played WoW as a hardcore raider for some time before i quit that game, I played d3 and made top 10 in S3, S4, and s10. Not many people I have come across that talks smack D3 is a good player that had switched to PoE. This is simply false.
They're not giving opinions they are being bigoted and hateful towards D3 players for no reason. In this the general public of PoE are simply children. Like i said I have played both games and played them well and i have experienced both communities. If all you do is go to a Diablo fansite and bash players and a game, maybe you should direct some of your free time to the game you're actually playing and then those people would probably be better players and people.
There is a massive difference between D3 casual play and D3 competitive play. Only people who play for leaderboards and push in group grifts know this difference. There is a huge difference between grift 60 and a grift 105 solo. Not only in terms of how good your gear is but how you approach the grift.
"This forum has become far too toxic for any meaningful discussion of
the game. I hope they can sort this out and get back to making a game
we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
Just think only about the 5% player base that is pushing/grinding the gr meta. That's why you often see "D3 is dead" because the other 95% quit the game because of lack of content.
LOL aparat of d3 bein shit game at current state and date, You "sir"
are the second one i quit d3. You are a perfect example of an idiot-fan
boy... U quoted my post and commented "casual brain dead talk". Dd u
even fuckin read it? aparently not cuz u would ahve read how many hours i
spent and and that i was twice top10? u r guess im not the one brain
dead here..
Whats ur acmoplishments apart of being an idiot on forum and contributin zero to the topic, only missinformation??
I DONE, SOME MOD CAN DELETE MY ACCOUNT PLS.
PATH OF EXILE BOYYSSS ! LEAGUE EXTENDED !!
Totally agree.
Like 2 nights ago I told this zsader to not shield glare on a boss because it resets the aggro and voids my stun lock. It also fucks with the lightning wiz. He got super butt hurt, "well I ran speed he 98s all the time and no one complained about me blinding." Checked his profile, highest group he completed was a GR80.
Half the veterans don't even realize why they hit this wall.
In terms of people who know what they are doing, yes the community is considered dead. Do I still play it? Yes, but not everyday anymore. My will to play a lot died after season 8 because I got my final tab. May be if we still gained more tabs per season, idk.
Yeah D3 vs. POE is just another of the billion examples of how combative and polarized so many people are: conservatives vs. liberals, Macs vs. PCs, Ford vs. Chevy, whites vs. blacks, straight vs gay...it just never ends. People put blinders on.