I'm asking this question for community feedback for a new, upcoming Diablo 3 podcast that will feature questions posed to the community and critical thinking about each topic, rather than just idle chatter about the game and news.
So I put it to you - why do you want a D4 announcement? The main rebuttal I have is if a new game is announced in November of 2016, given development time for something new and ground breaking in the ARPG/Diablo franchise, you are looking at a potential release somewhere around 2018/2019. That's a very, very long time to wait with only D3 as your companion and patches, etc to keep you entertained.
To which, imo, NO one would be satisfied any longer with D3 when the next newest thing is around the corner....a very, very, very long corner.
Why do you want an announcement for a new game so early - what will keep you satisfied to play D3 for two to three years while you wait?
I don't want a D4 Improve D3 and I'm happy! Also, 2-4 years goes by fast if you have something to do, work, hobbies, whatnot so I'm fine with a wait time.
Everything I'd like to see CAN be implemented within D3. However, I'm not sure blizzard is willing to risk drastically changing D3, so a D4 announcement would be exciting because it means they would essentially have a clean slate to work with.
Because I like ARPGs and D3 in its current form with its current loot drop rates and skill system seems impossibly broken.
As far as D3 goes, the only reason I played this season is the tenth stash tab, I seriously doubt I'll play D3 in future seasons. The game as it stands now has about a week or so of fun to it and then it is time for Path of Exile or Grim Dawn or some other game where it is more fun exploring all the build possibilties.
I wouldn't. There are too many unresolved plots left from Diablo 3. We aren't done yet. Imperius is begging to be put down, Diablo is running amock without a person trying to contain him, Dirgest is out of its Jewel, Lyndon needs to "have words" with his sister in law crusader style, and after looking at her handiwork in vanilla and RoS, I think we can expect a proper battle with Nereza as well,
What we need is an expansion and as I have been saying for years now, the setting that would make most sense would be Xiansai.
Why Xiansai and not saaaay Skovos? Welll......
The central theme is always a journey eastward so the Sanctuary version of the far east would be an ideal place for the final fight.
As the home of the wizard and Covetous Shen it is an important part of the backstory.
We know that Abd-al Hazir spent considerable time in Xiansai so bestiary entries and lore trivia are covered.
It is where several swords, bows, monk equipment, jewelry and 99% of the legendary gems come from.
For final boss I vote Trag'Oul. He and his necromancers work to maintain balance. The Nephalem is an unstoppable demigod who killed the prime evil and the former head of the angiris council. He is a threat to the balance. Besides after we killed the head of the angiris council who was infused with the power of the prime evil and half the population of sancuary, I don't think anything beside a planet sized celestial dragon could pose a credible threat as a final boss. Of course we won't kill him, but we can still wound him badly.
Also I'm pretty sure Tyrael will die. He has to. That's the point of being mortal. My guess is that after the Trag'Oul fight the dragons shoots and attack at us and Tyrael takes the hit. This convinces TG to leave us alone and Tyrael learns the final lesson of mortality.
Absolutely wonderful advice and information here!
I completely agree that there is a lot of story left to tell in Sanctuary and to further the good vs evil conflict away from the repetitive "battle Diablo" each iteration of the story. However, without some significant changes to the play style of Diablo 3 and foundational shits away from the min/max RNG hunt the game has become, I can't see more development being infused into this game.
Any opinions on new systems, classes or something to change the paradigm of the game - in conjunction with the land of the Wizards/Sorcerers of Xiansai?
Hmm. My rebuttal to your rebuttal Polrayne would be that you need to properly rest the franchise in order for its following to gain a bit of vigor for that next step. Maybe we are in that period? Releasing content for D3 that would keep people entertained all the way to D4 sounds impractical. And announcing D4 will not kill D3 any more than what it is at the moment. Just keep in mind that franchises act like a sort of skinner box and Diablo is not Madden, FIFA or CoD.
As to why I would like a Diablo 4 announcement even if the release is very far off? If it's 2018-2020 that sounds good to me. You allow the juice and hype to rebuild for a product people can get excited about. Blizzard definitely does not want burn outs like me jumping into D4 because it will most definitely color my attitude for the game. Plus, I'd like to know if Diablo wants to be the next SWTOR/LOTRO as early as possible so I can decide whether or not I can kill off my interest in the world of Sanctuary.
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Thank you all for your feed back on this - should make some great information to go over in the podcast! Once it's recorded and live, it will be linked to Dfans
Everything I'd like to see CAN be implemented within D3. However, I'm not sure blizzard is willing to risk drastically changing D3, so a D4 announcement would be exciting because it means they would essentially have a clean slate to work with.
Maybe blizz could make a stand-alone expansion then make some drastical changes to d3 to that.
Going stand alone is the best way to make a new, hypothetic, expansion for D3. This way they can keep RoS like this and start anew without making a new game; classes, spells, graphic can be reused but with a different itemization, game system and not stacking insane damage multiplier for a new level cap.
New players can buy D3X2 without buying Vanilla and Ros, which is a nice saving while, hopefully, Diablo 3 will go into a more RPG direction like the predecessor and other games of the genre out there right now.
D4 seems very unrealistic considering D3 is still well within it's life cycle. Expecting them to stop providing updates to the current game is about as likely as them doing the same for any of their other current products like WoW or SC2 which are both older than D3. It isn't Blizzard's style to create an entirely separate game when they can simply build on their current product.
Anyone that is expecting to hear information about a new game rather than an expansion is going to be disappointed. Blizzard has never been in the business of rolling out replacements for their games. They sell expansions for them.
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I'm asking this question for community feedback for a new, upcoming Diablo 3 podcast that will feature questions posed to the community and critical thinking about each topic, rather than just idle chatter about the game and news.
So I put it to you - why do you want a D4 announcement? The main rebuttal I have is if a new game is announced in November of 2016, given development time for something new and ground breaking in the ARPG/Diablo franchise, you are looking at a potential release somewhere around 2018/2019. That's a very, very long time to wait with only D3 as your companion and patches, etc to keep you entertained.
To which, imo, NO one would be satisfied any longer with D3 when the next newest thing is around the corner....a very, very, very long corner.
Why do you want an announcement for a new game so early - what will keep you satisfied to play D3 for two to three years while you wait?
Monkalicious: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/OptimusPrime-12194/hero/79139477
I don't want a D4
Improve D3 and I'm happy! Also, 2-4 years goes by fast if you have something to do, work, hobbies, whatnot so I'm fine with a wait time.
Everything I'd like to see CAN be implemented within D3. However, I'm not sure blizzard is willing to risk drastically changing D3, so a D4 announcement would be exciting because it means they would essentially have a clean slate to work with.
Because I like ARPGs and D3 in its current form with its current loot drop rates and skill system seems impossibly broken.
As far as D3 goes, the only reason I played this season is the tenth stash tab, I seriously doubt I'll play D3 in future seasons. The game as it stands now has about a week or so of fun to it and then it is time for Path of Exile or Grim Dawn or some other game where it is more fun exploring all the build possibilties.
I completely agree that there is a lot of story left to tell in Sanctuary and to further the good vs evil conflict away from the repetitive "battle Diablo" each iteration of the story. However, without some significant changes to the play style of Diablo 3 and foundational shits away from the min/max RNG hunt the game has become, I can't see more development being infused into this game.
Any opinions on new systems, classes or something to change the paradigm of the game - in conjunction with the land of the Wizards/Sorcerers of Xiansai?
Monkalicious: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/OptimusPrime-12194/hero/79139477
With this mentality, why ever make expansions?
Hmm. My rebuttal to your rebuttal Polrayne would be that you need to properly rest the franchise in order for its following to gain a bit of vigor for that next step. Maybe we are in that period? Releasing content for D3 that would keep people entertained all the way to D4 sounds impractical. And announcing D4 will not kill D3 any more than what it is at the moment. Just keep in mind that franchises act like a sort of skinner box and Diablo is not Madden, FIFA or CoD.
As to why I would like a Diablo 4 announcement even if the release is very far off? If it's 2018-2020 that sounds good to me. You allow the juice and hype to rebuild for a product people can get excited about. Blizzard definitely does not want burn outs like me jumping into D4 because it will most definitely color my attitude for the game. Plus, I'd like to know if Diablo wants to be the next SWTOR/LOTRO as early as possible so I can decide whether or not I can kill off my interest in the world of Sanctuary.
"We", "Everyone" - Argumentum ad populum. "You people" - Argumentum ad hominem. "Your dumb" - Contractionem absum.
Thank you all for your feed back on this - should make some great information to go over in the podcast! Once it's recorded and live, it will be linked to Dfans
Thanks again!
Monkalicious: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/OptimusPrime-12194/hero/79139477
New players can buy D3X2 without buying Vanilla and Ros, which is a nice saving while, hopefully, Diablo 3 will go into a more RPG direction like the predecessor and other games of the genre out there right now.
D4 seems very unrealistic considering D3 is still well within it's life cycle. Expecting them to stop providing updates to the current game is about as likely as them doing the same for any of their other current products like WoW or SC2 which are both older than D3. It isn't Blizzard's style to create an entirely separate game when they can simply build on their current product.
Anyone that is expecting to hear information about a new game rather than an expansion is going to be disappointed. Blizzard has never been in the business of rolling out replacements for their games. They sell expansions for them.