What The Fuck Is Wrong With You People?

[Doppelganger]

Anyone else having/enjoying this album from Combichrist?

Also, if you know of bands with similar music then please share.

[goodguy8705]

I think half the reason you created this thread was so you could do the title like that.

[Doppelganger]

Maybe half the reason Combichrist named their album the way it is is because they knew people were going to think that half the reason threads being created to discuss their album and therefor being named after their album is/was so that whoever made the thread could title it like that.

To be honest, thats how the album is named and its -according to what i read about it- their best known one and its also the one i like most and the most recent one i got. (i also got "Everybody Hates You" and "Sex Drogen and Industrial" which are arguably "half as good a reason" to title the thread like that, or at least according to what you think i think you think i think, etc.., or "Combichrist" itself for that matter seeing how easy it then would be to get this thread turned into a religious discussion).

Anyways, lets cut the paranoid "just because its PC" PC.

[-Mephisto's Lament-]

No. I only listen to decent music.

[goodguy8705]

Hardcore techno? Lame.

[Doppelganger]

No. I only listen to decent music.

Nah, you only listen to commercial music. Done that, move along.

@ Goodguy: Is that a question? In any case, its not "hardcore techno" (and what if it was?), so "lame" back at you.

Would be fun if anyone that actually heard the music would reply though, instead of your typical -metal/don't even care what lame you listen to Goodguy, guessing some soft shit like emo R&B or whatever pathetic excuse for music every wanabe gangsta highschool nikolodion or whatever teen loser likes- prejudice reply.

edit: I'm starting to understand DF really is the wrong place to talk about (dis)likes of this kind, could aswel join your average Tom Cruise fansite and talk about interesting movie plots. lol

[Rykker]

I'm not extremely well-versed in Combichrist's work (I haven't heard anything off this new album, for example), but I like a few of their previous songs.

God Wrapped in Plastic, and This Shit Will Fuck You Up are my favorites, of what I've heard.

[Doppelganger]

I've just got this album a few days, but i really like the terror-like (or however you would call it) track named God Warrior and the track Brain-Bypass. (if you ever hear it)

edit: Oh yeah, i also have the "The joy of gunz" album, thats maybe the strangest (noise) one of them all.

[Rykker]

I'll look them up...

[Doppelganger]

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCh2FXzD6R4) is what God Warrior sampled from.

Hilarious.

[Umpa65]

Maybe half the reason Combichrist named their album the way it is is because they knew people were going to think that half the reason threads being created to discuss their album and therefor being named after their album is/was so that whoever made the thread could title it like that.

To be honest, thats how the album is named and its -according to what i read about it- their best known one and its also the one i like most and the most recent one i got. (i also got "Everybody Hates You" and "Sex Drogen and Industrial" which are arguably "half as good a reason" to title the thread like that, or at least according to what you think i think you think i think, etc.., or "Combichrist" itself for that matter seeing how easy it then would be to get this thread turned into a religious discussion).

Anyways, lets cut the paranoid "just because its PC" PC.

I think its a bit silly you had to name the thread that. You could have just as easily said new album from Combichrist or something similar.

[Doppelganger]

Yeah but i'm too much of a stubborn ass to fall before the whims of you and change it now, sorry.
And please stop with the ridiculous PC semantics, worst meme/virus ever. (and thats not a joke, believe me)

[Umpa65]

Yeah but i'm too much of a stubborn ass to fall before the whims of you and change it now, sorry.
And please stop with the ridiculous PC semantics, worst meme/virus ever. (and thats not a joke, believe me)

Even if you wanted to change it you can't lol

[Doppelganger]

Yes i can, and reversed psychology doesn't work on me.

[Seth]

Not my cup of tea, sorry. But if other people like it then, well, that's their opinion and more power to them.

[Doppelganger]

To be honest, i don't all of their tracks, only a few of them stand out (30% of them or so) but those do hit that sweet sweet spot of glory and hard, imo.
Depends on whoever if those few numbers are worth a purchase. (if you like the sort of music at all obviously)

[Seth]

You know, that's probably true for most musicians, you'd think. Only a few of them are actually new and interesting. The rest are probably to make ends meet. I don't know, I'm not a musician and I don't know how things work, that's just what I think.

[goodguy8705]

How can you say this isn't hardcore techno? It's synthetic beats looped over and over again with very few words. That's techno and it sucks.

[Doppelganger]

I'm not a musician either, like not even close. (although i strangely do love making music, be it in the completely computerized way of which i understand very little anyways, "Reason")

But i like some of Combichrists numbers 'cause they seem to capture some of that '90 techno, or at least a sort of logical evolution of bands like The Prodigy for example, which i also like.

@ Goodguy: No, you suck, mostly at judging all tracks -you probably never heard- by that one "loopy track which aint good" you quickly googled in a pathetic try at trying to sound somewhat not entirely ignorant about it. And again, its not hardcore techno at all, its way too slow and industrial for that. And seriously "with very few words"? As if thats relevant at all about how "hardcore" the techno supposedly is? Come on, you're more intelligent then that.

[goodguy8705]

I say hardcore because it seems like these guys are trying to sound angry. I listened to everything on youtube. It's all pretty similar.

The singing is more like talking. The screaming is terrible and the lyrics are weak.

I give this group a 1/5.

Want to see a good example of the kind of people that love this stuff?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUA6e-s2pBw

There you go.

[Doppelganger]

Nah, those are the people that "listen to everything on youtube", meaning you, you fail.

edit: their videos suck ass though, teh goodgey wai.

Mega edit: I'm pretty sure this is the face you make when listening to the epic music of Combichrist. Amirite? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U7b1bv_uTk&feature=related)

[goodguy8705]

Wow, you're seriously acting like a retard.

Can't handle that someone (mostly everyone) doesn't really like Combichrist?

[SteelVelocity]

Try Juno Reactor.

[Umpa65]

rofl im so underground, im better than all you kids that listen to any mainstream at all because the word mainstream classified with a type of music makes my ears bleed!

[-Mephisto's Lament-]

Nah, you only listen to commercial music. Done that, move along.

@ Goodguy: Is that a question? In any case, its not "hardcore techno" (and what if it was?), so "lame" back at you.

Would be fun if anyone that actually heard the music would reply though, instead of your typical -metal/don't even care what lame you listen to Goodguy, guessing some soft shit like emo R&B or whatever pathetic excuse for music every wanabe gangsta highschool nikolodion or whatever teen loser likes- prejudice reply.

edit: I'm starting to understand DF really is the wrong place to talk about (dis)likes of this kind, could aswel join your average Tom Cruise fansite and talk about interesting movie plots. lol

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[Rykker]

Take the insults to PM, people.

[Doppelganger]

Anways, sad that people need to think in black&white terms, even after i stated that i do not at all like all Combichrists tracks, but whatever.

@ Steel Velocity: Not really the same sort of techno, but i only heard a few numbers which were rather trancy. Thanks anyways though.

@ Umpa: i'm assuming you're being sarcastic, however, i don't have anything against mainstream except for the fact that its mainstream, meaning, pretty much given knowledge rather then something new and refreshing you don't hear everywhere. But i'm an omnivore so there's always something i like about a genre, wether it be mainstream or niche.

@ Goodguy: ok, you don't like it, i get it, but, which one do you like the least and which one the most of the Combichrist tracks you youtubed?

[goodguy8705]

I went to youtube and searched for "combichrist" where I proceeded to watch the first 6 videos, none of which I actually liked.

The best video was the dancing goth kids only because it was stupidly funny and the chick is moderately attractive.

[SteelVelocity]

Oh, if you want something more hardcore, might I suggest something Diabolical :evil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9cqKafnUrk

[Doppelganger]

Yeah, thats good to know Goodguy, but anyways, if you want to hear what hardcore techno is ('cause you clearly know jack shit) then youtube thunderdome, preferably the earlier stuff. Don't get a heart-attack though. (also thats seen as "soft" compared to speedcore and terrorcore, search at own risk)

[dub Lucifer]

Anyone else having/enjoying this album from Combichrist?

Also, if you know of bands with similar music then please share.

Couldn't even make it through 1 song, they like a gay version of Ramstien, mixed in with a little manson and eCtasy.

[goodguy8705]

Yeah, thats good to know Goodguy, but anyways, if you want to hear what hardcore techno is ('cause you clearly know jack shit) then youtube thunderdome, preferably the earlier stuff. Don't get a heart-attack though. (also thats seen as "soft" compared to speedcore and terrorcore, search at own risk)

None of this changes the fact that these guys are no talent ass clowns. The whole industrial scene is full of them.

It's garbage, and for you to stand behind them and say otherwise is sad. If you wholeheartedly believe these guys are musicians capable of producing actual music with actual singing, then you seriously need some help.

[Doppelganger]

I don't care about the guys in question, but i do know something about the techno scene and some of their tracks i just like (although admittedly after a while i do get bored of them, but thats the case with 99.99 % of the music i hear anyways).
Anyways, i know you're taste in music is entirely not compatible with this. And yes, i did check up on some of the music you like, and i seriously didn't really like any of what i heard either. I'm not saying that to be a jackass or anything or to troll you into defending what you like. And i'm also not saying its "bad" or "good" music seeing that i don't know anything about the type of music anyways. (from my limited knowledge of the type of music i would tend to say good in the genre, but my opinion about the matter is entirely useless)
What i do completely disagree with though is your extremely narrow-minded view of what "music" or "musicians" are, basically only what you like and nothing else. Look up speedcore for example, even i think its pushing the limit of what can even be considered "music", but don't deny it as an art form consisting of sound (basicaly enough to classify it as music on my part). Seriously, open your mind a little, if you only accept vocals (actual singing, melody, chords, beginning/middle/end, whatever they teach you in every average school of music) to be what defines music, well then you didn't understood anything about the history of music, at all. I'm sorry.

(also, one of my lifelong friends has a taste in music very similar to yours, probably more jazzy, he also studied music and had a degree in it with high distinction, believe me, he knows music and he doesn't have my taste at all. But still he can differentiate, to an extend, whats good in a certain genre and utter crap, regardless of his taste. Sadly for some reason you can't)

[goodguy8705]

90% of Combichrists "music" isn't performed by them. It's synthesized loops repeated over and over for the entirety of a song. Music is an art form, and while this meets the technical definition of what music is, it shouldnt.

If you like it, that's great. It's the fact that you got an attitude when I stated how I felt about it that pisses me off.

I see you don't like my taste in music. Sweet. You can bash it all day. What you won't see me do is call you a dumb ass because you don't like it. I won't defend it at all. I will say that most of the music I like is written by the artist, performed by the artist using actual instruments and has some sort of vocal range. This does not.

Like I said, if you enjoy it, keep on enjoying it. Do not tell me I'm narrow minded because I don't like it. I spend a lot of my time finding new, underground artists. I listen to 10 bands I've never heard of every single day. Don't for one second think I don't know the industry and what kind of effort goes into certain types of music.

I can tell you this right now. Very little goes into this. This band specifically puts forth almost zero effort. I may not enjoy metal, but I know that playing some of the stuff metal bands play on guitar is incredibly difficult and they get credit where it is due. Combichrist deserves none. That's all there is to it. They have no integrity as artists.

[Doppelganger]

Nothing needs to be complex, difficult, whatever to be music, seriously. I studied art, graphical art more specifically, and from your reaction i can confidently say you just don't have the faintest clue. It hurts, i know.

I don't care about Combichrist, i don't care about their integrity, i do not care. Why is it so that in your little cubical square-headed world i either need to cut my dick of and mail it-fall in love, praising them into the heavens because i like a few songs, or aspects of songs or whatever, or puke at everything in disgust? Why?

My attitude you say? My attitude towards you, which was mostly for the lulz of making fun at your narrow-mindedness, after your somewhat on-topic reply, and i quote "Hardcore techno? Lame", what a deep statement of how you felt. Grow up will you.

I'm just going to say this for the last time, 'cause you're not getting it after having heard it from me a million times before. I do not give a flying fuck about "the band", i don't give a fuck about them as "artists", i'm not a fan, i don't give a fuck if they sampled it, didn't perform it, ripped it, not even if they didn't make any of it, i don't give a fuck if they would fart in a bottle and stuffed it down Led Zeppelins throat, i do not give a fuck. Am i getting through to you? Are you computing this? 'Cause i swear if you're not then fuck it, go troll somewhere else.

[goodguy8705]

Nothing needs to be complex, difficult, whatever to be music, seriously. I studied art, graphical art more specifically, and from your reaction i can confidently say you just don't have the faintest clue. It hurts, i know.

I don't care about Combichrist, i don't care about their integrity, i do not care. Why is it so that in your little cubical square-headed world i either need to cut my dick of and mail it-fall in love, praising them into the heavens because i like a few songs, or aspects of songs or whatever, or puke at everything in disgust? Why?

My attitude you say? My attitude towards you, which was mostly for the lulz of making fun at your narrow-mindedness, after your somewhat on-topic reply, and i quote "Hardcore techno? Lame", what a deep statement of how you felt. Grow up will you.

I'm just going to say this for the last time, 'cause you're not getting it after having heard it from me a million times before. I do not give a flying fuck about "the band", i don't give a fuck about them as "artists", i'm not a fan, i don't give a fuck if they sampled it, didn't perform it, ripped it, not even if they didn't make any of it, i don't give a fuck if they would fart in a bottle and stuffed it down Led Zeppelins throat, i do not give a fuck. Am i getting through to you? Are you computing this? 'Cause i swear if you're not then fuck it, go troll somewhere else.

On multiple occasions where we've gotten into it, you know how it ended, so lets not do it again.

As for you not giving a fuck. Lies. This thread's existence states otherwise.

If you've studied art, and consider this art, you must have went to a special ed school.

Any one who says something like "I've studied art so I'm the art master" is an absolute tool. I live art. I breathe art. I write it and draw it and paint it and play it. You studied it? Kudos tool.

This is the lowest form of art there is and I'm using that term loosely because if someone walked up to me and said, listen to this work of art, I would bitch slap the shit out of them.

[DieHardDiabloFan]

lol at both of you

[Doppelganger]

On multiple occasions where we've gotten into it, you know how it ended, so lets not do it again.

As for you not giving a fuck. Lies. This thread's existence states otherwise.

If you've studied art, and consider this art, you must have went to a special ed school.

Any one who says something like "I've studied art so I'm the art master" is an absolute tool. I live art. I breathe art. I write it and draw it and paint it and play it. You studied it? Kudos tool.

This is the lowest form of art there is and I'm using that term loosely because if someone walked up to me and said, listen to this work of art, I would bitch slap the shit out of them.

Did i say they were art? WTF? How many fucking times do i have to repeat myself over and over again? Seriously, answer me this, are you really that stupid or are you just trolling?
In any case, you didn't get it, obviously. I "studied" art, as in, a school, you know, teaching its students about art, the history of it, implementations of it, what it ment, the psychology behind it, philosophy, etc,... I didn't say that that made me a "master in art", but it did make me open my eyes that the history of ignorance you so perfectly portray will forever repeat itself. I'm the tool? I'm the tool for wanting to eradicate dumb tool prejudices you amongst others ejaculate? Whatever
You just don't get it and you probably never will, i've had discussions like this a million times and you remind me mostly of my demented grandma. Appel couldn't be art, Pollack, he doesn't even fucking touch the canvas with his brushes, how the fuck can that be "art"? Van Gogh though with its pretty landscapes, thats art. White Square on white canvas? Are you fucking kidding me? You remind me of religious fanatics, everything thats "ungodly" needs to burn. Oh i wish i could eradicate the world from its never-ending stupidity.
I don't hold it against you for not getting it though, you're just one of the many many amongst the mediocracy, thats fine, don't, don't even try cause you won't, you don't have the potential, you just don't.
"Lowest form of art", "art" is dead fucker, everything's been done before, ah whatever, i might as well register at "TomCruiseFans.com". End of the discussion.

[goodguy8705]

So, we agree then, this isn't art.

You're an idiot.

[-Mephisto's Lament-]

BUT..BUT..HE STUDIED ART! THAT MUST MEAN COMBICHRIST ARE ART!

Psht.

[Doppelganger]

Haha yeah, thats the way to pwn me, pointing out i studied and then showing off your utter lack of reading comprehension.
i wonder what your encore is, mentioning your dad skullfucked you right into retardoland?

[goodguy8705]

I can't believe how retarded some of the shit you say is.

[Rykker]

Game over.