Metallica - Death Magnetic!!!

[Jarhead89]

Yep. Was sold early in a Paris record store. By the same time the next day, it was all over the internet.

Ill still be buying it on release day, but for now...

HOLY SHIT THIS ALBUM FUCKING ROCKS!

!!!!!1!!!11!!!one!!!!!

:thumbsup:

[Num3n]

would you say this album is better than master of puppets?

[Jarhead89]

@ goodguy:

They been around for 27 fucking years. Asif they dont care about their fans. They have won grammies, they sellout every concert they ever announce, they have sold millions of albums and have millions of fans in countless countries. They once toured for 1 and a half years non stop. And you say they dont care about their fans? Stop hating and go listen to the new album. If you still think they are sellouts, provide me with a SHRED of fact or logic to support your bullshit claims. And dont you bring up that napster bullshit.

@Num3n

Metallicas first 4 albums, Kill Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, And Justice For All, will always remain their best 4 albums, and some of the best metal albums of all time. Having said that, out of every album to come out SINCE those four, the new album Death Magnetic is the best.

[Zoltrix]

I am sorry but their new album is not better then the black album.

[Murderface]

I'm still gonna buy it either way. They only have one "bad" album, St.Anger, Load and Reload were just an evolution in their sound, there are plenty of good songs on either one. The House that Jack Built, King Nothing, Ronnie, Slither, Carpe Deim Baby, Prince Charming etc.

[Thasador]

I really dont have a fav between all the Metallica albums. Each and every album these guys produce, i own, and every single album is different from all the others. I havent checked out the newest album yet, however i am sure i will not be disappointed. Every album is marked on the top in my list. Black album, ride the lightning, master of puppets, S&M, load, reload, their first album, st anger, kill em all, justice for all...take your pic, they all ROCK! \m/

[JAZZ]

I am sorry but their new album is not better then the black album.

Black is the BEST album Zoltrix, I love you now lol

[goodguy8705]

@ goodguy:

They been around for 27 fucking years. Asif they dont care about their fans. They have won grammies, they sellout every concert they ever announce, they have sold millions of albums and have millions of fans in countless countries. They once toured for 1 and a half years non stop. And you say they dont care about their fans? Stop hating and go listen to the new album. If you still think they are sellouts, provide me with a SHRED of fact or logic to support your bullshit claims. And dont you bring up that napster bullshit.


Everything you just listed is how they happen to make their money. You think they tour for the fans, and not the paychecks? Heh.

Going for infraction 2?

[goodguy8705]

Have you noticed the fact, that you can download ~20 old Metallica albums totally free on their website?

No, because I don't listen to Metallica. They have 5 or 6 good songs I enjoy, but thats not very many considering how many they have.

Metallica has always been about money. If an album is available for free on their site, it's because they are no longer making decent money off of them.

I just looked, and I didn't see any full albums free.

[Stormcat]

Just heard - The Judas Kiss - I really like that song.

[Jarhead89]

@Stormcat - Agreed, Judas Kiss is wicked, probably one of the most catchy chrorus's metallica has ever had!

@Zoltrix - I cant really decide which album i like better between tba and dm, i spose the reason tba is a little off is because it took metallicas fast paced thrash metal sound and slowed it right down, complete with drop d tuning, and a drum riff that is exactly the same in every song but just sped up and slowed down.

@Murderface - i 100% agree with you

@Thas - rock on! \m/ :thumbsup:

@goodguy - honestly, theres only so far money can take you. They would have had enough money years ago to last them a lifetime. If they continue to sell millions of albums and have sellout shows which people rave about, then why not continue. And who cares if they make money - im happy to give it to them for what they have given me, fucking awesome metal up your ass! If they toured for the paychecks, they wouldnt have awesome shows like they do. For that matter, you could bring your bullshit argument up about any band. Bands tour, bands release albums, bands make money. What makes metallica so different?

[Murderface]

This album is fucking heavy, some of the heaviest and wicked riffs I've ever heard on a Metallica album. Also the first piano intro :D. My favorites are Suicide & Redemption, Judas Kiss, That Was Just Your Life, The End of the Line, Cyanide, The Day that Never Comes, The Unforgiven III, and All Nightmare Long, pretty much the whole album XD. This is a proper Metallica album. I only have one complaint, and that is some of the lyrics didn't feel right. Guitar and Bass were spot on, multitude of wicked deedle'eedee solos. The drums were, well uniquely Ulrich:rolleyes:.

l,,l:evil:l,,l

My fav Metallica songs:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk152/murderama_drama/dude.png

[Ivaron]

@goodguy - honestly, theres only so far money can take you. They would have had enough money years ago to last them a lifetime. If they continue to sell millions of albums and have sellout shows which people rave about, then why not continue. And who cares if they make money - im happy to give it to them for what they have given me, fucking awesome metal up your ass! If they toured for the paychecks, they wouldnt have awesome shows like they do. For that matter, you could bring your bullshit argument up about any band. Bands tour, bands release albums, bands make money. What makes metallica so different?
This site needs a facepalm emoticon.. Ahh, it's so nice to see how people can get lost in a discussion.

Guy says: "Metallica is a sell-out"
You say: "Tell me why you think that's true, because I think that they've done alot of good stuff specifically for fans *names some*"
Guy says: "Well that's because it's how they make money, all the things you named would fall under that category"
You say: "well, every band has to make money"

Complete misses the point, see? Anyway, haven't tried the new album yet..

[Murderface]

This site needs a facepalm emoticon.. Ahh, it's so nice to see how people can get lost in a discussion.

Guy says: "Metallica is a sell-out"
You say: "Tell me why you think that's true, because I think that they've done alot of good stuff specifically for fans *names some*"
Guy says: "Well that's because it's how they make money, all the things you named would fall under that category"
You say: "well, every band has to make money"

Complete misses the point, see?So you think they shouldn't please their fans in order to make less money?!? The only time I'll accept someone calling Metallica a sell-out is when they are describing the number of tickets they sold.:evil:

[JAZZ]

The black album is the only album that fits with my sig.

Thats why I am in love with it.



EXCEPT, My fav song from metallica is Fade to black which is on ride the lighting.

[diablo fenatic]

Well, I told you it was going to be kick ass didn't hi? lol
For all the doubters out there who didn't think the album was going to be any good, piss off!

[goodguy8705]

@goodguy - honestly, theres only so far money can take you. They would have had enough money years ago to last them a lifetime. If they continue to sell millions of albums and have sellout shows which people rave about, then why not continue. And who cares if they make money - im happy to give it to them for what they have given me, fucking awesome metal up your ass! If they toured for the paychecks, they wouldnt have awesome shows like they do. For that matter, you could bring your bullshit argument up about any band. Bands tour, bands release albums, bands make money. What makes metallica so different?

Anyone who has money will always want more money. It definitely doesn't matter if they have enough or not. Their shows are "awesome" because that's how they keep making more money. If there shows sucked ass, who would go?

I didn't say Metallica was any different than any other band. Most bands are sell outs.

There are a few bands out there that actually truly care about their fan base and go to great lengths to please them. This concept is lead by Trent Reznor and has bled into other artists. I can think of a lot of bands that actually encourage their fans to find ways to get the music for free, even if it's illegal and their label won't allow it. Some bands leave their label entirely, or others like Radiohead just give away new albums. Unfortunately, the Radiohead situation was a one time thing and they have resorted back to their old ways due to a fat paycheck offered by their label. Is that selling out? Hell yes it is. I won't treat them any differently because their music is better.

[Siaynoq]

What's all this about selling out? It's just called success. Can't anyone be successful these days without being a sell out?

[goodguy8705]

What's all this about selling out? It's just called success. Can't anyone be successful these days without being a sell out?

Yes. But it's rare. What I would consider successful and what you would consider successful might be different though.

A lot of bands sell out concerts and have tons of albums out, but none of them are as adamant about the fans not getting the music for free as Metallica.

Free music is the future.

[diablo fenatic]

Yes. But it's rare. What I would consider successful and what you would consider successful might be different though.

A lot of bands sell out concerts and have tons of albums out, but none of them are as adamant about the fans not getting the music for free as Metallica.

Free music is the future.

Hate to break it to you, a lot of music will disappear if musicians don't make any money. Free music may be the future, but you will always be able to support great artists by buying theirs albums or song. Another thing, if you have a family to feed and provide for then you will accept a big fat paycheck. Give you an example here, if you're a paint artist and create pictures and drawings and what not, why wouldn't you except money for it? Tell me why? You worked hard and earned it. Not many people can replicate it and create it like you can. So please just tell me why?
Don't give me that bullshit line, "I wouldn't".

[AcidReign]

I'll give Metallica my money on Friday.

[Stormcat]

If anyone has XM Satellite Radio - Channel 51 - Mandatory Metallica - they have been playing a some of the new songs off of Death Magnetic too.

[goodguy8705]

Hate to break it to you, a lot of music will disappear if musicians don't make any money. Free music may be the future, but you will always be able to support great artists by buying theirs albums or song. Another thing, if you have a family to feed and provide for then you will accept a big fat paycheck. Give you an example here, if you're a paint artist and create pictures and drawings and what not, why wouldn't you except money for it? Tell me why? You worked hard and earned it. Not many people can replicate it and create it like you can. So please just tell me why?
Don't give me that bullshit line, "I wouldn't".

90% of a bands profits come from touring, not album sales. Go look up how recording contracts work. If you knew anything about the industry (and you don't) you'd know that signing record deals puts many bands into debt. Get your shit together, then you can argue with me.

Don't compare the music industry to other industries. They aren't even remotely similar.

I'm okay with bands to want to sell their albums. I think it's fucked up that so many bands are so anti-piracy that they would sue their fans for damages. There is a big difference between wanting to sell albums and being proactive against fans who don't want to buy their stuff.

If you want to buy albums, than go ahead. Id you don't, then don't. I don't care.

[diablo fenatic]

No, because I don't listen to Metallica. They have 5 or 6 good songs I enjoy, but thats not very many considering how many they have.
Metallica has always been about money. If an album is available free on their site, it's because they are no longer making decent money off of them.
I just looked, and I didn't see any full albums free.

Perhaps this is true, but they're still putting up free songs on the internet for people to listen to without paying. They didn't put up every song from albums they made, so what?

Anyone who has money will always want more money. It definitely doesn't matter if they have enough or not. Their shows are "awesome" because that's how they keep making more money. If there shows sucked ass, who would go?
I didn't say Metallica was any different than any other band. Most bands are sell outs.
A few bands out there actually truly care about their fan base and go to great lengths to please them. This concept is lead by Trent Reznor and has bled into other artists. I can think of a lot of bands that actually encourage their fans to find ways to get the music for free, even if it's illegal and their label won't allow it. Some bands leave their label entirely, or others like Radiohead just give away new albums. Unfortunately, the Radiohead situation was a one time thing and they have resorted back to their old ways due to a fat paycheck offered by their label. Is that selling out? Hell yes it is. I won't treat them any differently because their music is better.

That Radio head thing, I'm just going to take a random quote here from Wikipedia: Days after announcing the album's completion, Radiohead released In Rainbows as a digital download that customers could order for whatever price they saw fit. The download's commercial success is unclear, as the band declined to publicise their Internet sales numbers. Technically, they didn't really give them away, because some people paid for it and maybe some others didn't, probably most, but we still don't know that and we don't know if they made a big or small profit from it. Like you said, that was a one-time thing and it won't happen again, because they received a fat paycheck. Why did they receive one, because that was a very successful album.

Anyone who has money will always want more money. It definitely doesn't matter if they have enough or not.
This is in human nature, humans always want more of what they need or got. That's why communism failed miserably in Russia.

Yes. But it's rare. What I would consider successful and what you would consider successful might be different though.

A lot of bands sell out concerts and have tons of albums out, but none of them are as adamant about the fans not getting the music for free as Metallica.
Free music is the future.

That is true, one mans garbage is another mans gold, so what?
Yes, but their changing their ways. They've got their own website with free songs on there. They have a youtube account with a their new song "The day that never comes" and they have footage of them just screwing around with guitars and such. I wouldn't go as far as saying not one band is as adamant about the fans not getting the music for free as Metallica. They're kind of like China, they've come a long way, but they still have some ways to go in their mentality towards certain subjects of their business and passion.

90% of a bands profits come from touring, not album sales. Go look up how recording contracts work. If you knew anything about the industry (and you don't) you'd know that signing record deals puts many bands into debt. Get your shit together, then you can argue with me.

Don't compare the music industry to other industries. They aren't even remotely similar.

I'm okay with bands to want to sell their albums. I think it's fucked up that so many bands are so anti-piracy that they would sue their fans for damages. There is a big difference between wanting to sell albums and being proactive against fans who don't want to buy their stuff.

If you want to buy albums, than go ahead. Id you don't, then don't. I don't care.

I get where your coming from, I mean I don't want to get fucking sued neither for downloading albums that I can't afford or don't have the means to buy. I'm perfectly on you side with that, but when you're saying things like if you're successful and make a lot of money and except good paying record deals then you're a sell out then I just don't agree with you, simple as that. I'm not an expert in this field, but I have common sense and that's better then most knowledge out there.

[goodguy8705]

That Radio head thing, I'm just going to take a random quote here from Wikipedia: Days after announcing the album's completion, Radiohead released In Rainbows as a digital download that customers could order for whatever price they saw fit. The download's commercial success is unclear, as the band declined to publicise their Internet sales numbers. Technically, they didn't really give them away, because some people paid for it and maybe some others didn't, probably most, but we still don't know that and we don't know if they made a big or small profit from it. Like you said, that was a one-time thing and it won't happen again, because they received a fat paycheck. Why did they receive one, because that was a very successful album.

The fact that everyone had the option to get it free if they wanted to means they were giving it away. People paying for it were essentially making a donation.

Metallica might be turning around now, but it's going to take a while for me to believe they care about their fans like they should. Until then, I won't support them in any way. I also won't be downloading their music. I just don't like it.

[Murderface]

The fact that everyone had the option to get it free if they wanted to means they were giving it away. People paying for it were essentially making a donation.

Metallica might be turning around now, but it's going to take a while for me to believe they care about their fans like they should. Until then, I won't support them in any way. I also won't be downloading their music. I just don't like it.How are you supposed to know if they are care about their fans if you don't listen to the fucking music? That's the only thing that matters. They show that they care by putting out a kick ass album that harkins back to the Metallica glory days. Thats all the fans really wanted. What really gets me is that you aren't a fan of Metallica in yet you feel obligated to call them sell-outs, possibly because of your inherent hatred of everything that people show enthusiasm for on this site. Don't spew uninformed shit. Listen to Kill Em All-Reload, then listen to Death Magnetic, then form your opinion. Otherwise your opinions are null and void of anything meaningful. Good day, sir.

[goodguy8705]

How are you supposed to know if they are care about their fans if you don't listen to the fucking music? That's the only thing that matters. They show that they care by putting out a kick ass album that harkins back to the Metallica glory days. Thats all the fans really wanted. What really gets me is that you aren't a fan of Metallica in yet you feel obligated to call them sell-outs, possibly because of your inherent hatred of everything that people show enthusiasm for on this site. Don't spew uninformed shit. Listen to Kill Em All-Reload, then listen to Death Magnetic, then form your opinion. Otherwise your opinions are null and void of anything meaningful. Good day, sir.

The actual music has nothing to do with it. I've studied this market extensively for economic reasons so as far as uninformed goes, I'm probably the most informed. I'm not sure why you even bothered replying since you didn't have a valid argument. Maybe next time.

[Murderface]

The actual music has nothing to do with it. I've studied this market extensively for economic reasons so as far as uninformed goes, I'm probably the most informed. I'm not sure why you even bothered replying since you didn't have a valid argument. Maybe next time.I see no validity in your argument. There is no way to tell if Metallica is a sell-out unless you talk to them face to face and they tell you they are in it only for the money, and they could give a shit about the fans. Being a sell-out is a state of mind. It's such an irrelavent cop-out to say that you aren't going to buy thier album because they sued people for stealing. Just say that you don't like their music and leave it at that, prick.

[goodguy8705]

I see no validity in your argument. There is no way to tell if Metallica is a sell-out unless you talk to them face to face and they tell you they are in it only for the money, and they could give a shit about the fans. Being a sell-out is a state of mind. It's such an irrelavent cop-out to say that you aren't going to buy thier album because they sued people for stealing. Just say that you don't like their music and leave it at that, prick.

You're stupid. I made it clear I wasn't a fan of their music and had no intention of buying or pirating it. I didn't say it was because they are sell outs.

Hell, I'm actually a better fan of Metallica than most of you guys are. At least I don't steal their music.

[Murderface]

Metallica might be turning around now, but it's going to take a while for me to believe they care about their fans like they should. Until then, I won't support them in any way. I also won't be downloading their music. I just don't like it.You kinda implied that until they turn around you wont support them. I guess I misconstrued the meaning of "support" as buying an album. Shame on me.

I've bought every album and I intend on buying this one when it's released in the U.S.

[Jarhead89]

Goodguy...Its funny you know, because i say dont bring up the napster bullshit, but you do, because its the only argument you have.

Honestly, who the fuck are you to say who are sellouts?

Its all opinion.

Murderface has been spot on, so im not going to repeat everything he says. If i want to download their shit, i will, and if i like it i will support the band by buying the album in a few days, which i will. If you like a band, if your happy with the music they create, you show your support by buying their album, by paying to see them. So what if they make a fuck tonne of money...means they have a shitload of fans and a fuckload of great music. Why do bands succeed like Metallica have? Because they are good. For gods sake they are the best metal band of all time, and thats widely accepted by fans and professionals alike, and you can never take that away from them, no matter how much shit you talk and no matter how much you cry and whinge about the napster bullshit and money and being "sellouts".

Define sellout and show me how it applies to Metallica.

The fans out there are LOVING the new album and it just goes to show Metallica actually sat down and said shit, lets really try and give them something awesome. You wont find many bad reviews on Death Magnetic, let alone any Metallica album besides maybe St.Anger. Its good shit and yet you judge them by everything BUT their music. Just put the bullshit aside and listen to the music, then come try and tell me something bad about them based purely on their music and nothing else. Who gives a flying fuck about how much money they make, or what legal battles they decide to pursue, they are a band, not a company, what they do outside the studio and the live shows is their own business.

In the end, your pointing out flaws in a band and nobody gives a fuck what they are, because the music they make is so good i honestly dont give a shit if they fuck up. You try doing something like they have for 27 years and not making mistakes. In amongst death of band members, drug and alcohol problems, having wives, kids, families. And yet they still kick fucking ass. Go figure.

[goodguy8705]

When the fuck did I say I was against purchasing albums? Quit putting words into my mouth you retards. I don't care whether you steal music or buy it. It's great to support your favorite artists. I'm not against it. Hell, I'm not even against the artists not liking piracy. It's there desire to hurt their fans to make a couple bucks they don't even need that pisses me off.

It's understandable, but very inaccurate to state that piracy has a large effect on artists. It doesn't. You want to support an artist, go to a show.

As for them getting amazing reviews, I've read a lot of reviews for it and not all of them are positive. Not even close to all of them.

When I look at anything, be it a musician, a teacher, a drug dealer... etc, I don't look at their profits, or how good they are at what they do. Character is what matters and to come out and say someone is so good at something, their character doesn't matter is not only incredibly stupid, but not all that surprising coming from you.

Random Guy: Did you hear? Metallica rapes babies.
Jarhead: Who cares? They roxorz.

That's taking your concept to the absolute extremes but either way, it's completely retarded. You are entitled to enjoy the music, support the band, and be a complete renob. Whatever floats your boat.

None of my points have anything to do with their music at al,l yet, you guys seem to think telling me the music is good is some sort of solution to what I see is wrong with Metallica and the industry in general. It's not like Metallica is the only band that does this kind of shit, they just happen to the topic of this thread. You retardedly obsessed fans take everything personal and get defensive over your band like they are a part of you. They aren't. You mean nothing to them. They'd sue you if they found out you had illegal copies of their music. Keep that in mind when you are telling everyone how awesome Metallica is and how much they care about their fans.

My god, the only fans more annoying than Metallica fans are Tool fans. The only difference is, Tool doesn't suck.

[Murderface]

Greed rules the world, if you can't handle it, kill yourself.

Metallica doesn't rape babies, they kill them, they only rape mothers, and it doesn't matter much to them as long as they're dead/raped. (inside joke for those who own garage days)

You make a lot of assumptions. When was the last time they sued a fan? If you want to complain about the industry then make a thread about it.

If none of your points have to do with their music, GTFO.

[goodguy8705]

Greed rules the world, if you can't handle it, kill yourself.

Metallica doesn't rape babies, they kill them, they only rape mothers, and it doesn't matter much to them as long as they're dead/raped. (inside joke for those who own garage days)

You make a lot of assumptions. When was the last time they sued a fan? If you want to complain about the industry then make a thread about it.

If none of your points have to do with their music, GTFO.

Metallica is one of the leading supporters of the RIAA which has taken many people to court over the piracy of music.

[JAZZ]

This argument is silly, if goodguy thinks they're sell outs then let him.


Opinions start more arguments then needed.

[Jarhead89]

If none of your points have to do with their music, GTFO.

Thats exactly my point!

I honestly do not give a fuck about anything except for their music.

Arguing with goodguy has no end. He talks shit until you just cant be fucked arguing anymore. Ive learnt this in the past and its no different now.

"You want to support an artist, go to a show" - I said that.

"Random Guy: Did you hear? Metallica rapes babies.
Jarhead: Who cares? They roxorz." - Its actually more like "Who cares. Their music is fucking awesome." I never talked about their "character" or whatever bullshit you talk about seeing in drug dealers and teachers. I talked about their MUSIC and them as a BAND. Not as individuals.

"None of my points have anything to do with their music at all" - And thats been my point all along. We talk about their music, you talk about everything else.

"You retardedly obsessed fans take everything personal and get defensive over your band like they are a part of you" - Im getting defensive over a band because i like their music, not because i disagree with what your saying. Your attacking a band that i like, and at first i think you are referring to their music, but your not, so here we are.

"You mean nothing to them" - Me personally, no, but their fans as a whole, fuck oath they do, cos if it wasnt for every single one of us they wouldnt be rich and famous and successful. Its just like saying you mean nothing to all of your heroes, you mean nothing to your favourite bands, sportspeople, actors, pornstars. Im also ignoring the fact that you personally mean nothing to nobody at all.

"Keep that in mind when you are telling everyone how awesome Metallica is and how much they care about their fans" - I dont know if you have noticed, but all i was doing was telling everyone how awesome their MUSIC is. It was only when you said they were "a bunch of sellouts who dont care about their fans" that i retaliated, because god forbid i defend something that i like.

The fact is, i posted a thread about a band, and their new album being leaked, and your arrogant enough to come into a thread with people praising Metallica, and talk negatively about them. What the fuck did you expect?

Im defending Metallica, the band, and their music. Im not defending James, Kirk, Lars and Rob as the individuals they are.

[goodguy8705]

Im also ignoring the fact that you personally mean nothing to nobody at all.

Your improper use of grammer converted an insult to a compliment. Score. Huzzah!

[saggo68]

Like their new album.. it really nice

[permaximum]

I don't like the new album.In fact the quality of the album is very high but i don't like this style.It's kinda too speedy and james' voice can't be heard clean.But i think hardcore metal fans will love this album after st.anger :)

Just very liked "the day that never comes" . I think it could be classic song.

[Murderface]

Listen to it several times through and it will grow on you.

[Stormcat]

IT'S OUT!

Who's buying???

[-Mephisto's Lament-]

Black is the BEST album Zoltrix, I love you now lol

Wow, it's not even close to being their best album.

Metallica aren't sell outs, wtf?

Death Magnetic is just great, better than The Black Album, Kill'em All, Load, ReLoad, and St. Anger. Songs are long, but that's not a real problem. James got a hell of a lot better at melodic parts, solos are shit but still there, which is good. Drumming has improved vastly, riffs are great, this is a really solid album. Loved it.

[JAZZ]

Wow, it's not even close to being their best album.

I don't like Metallicas fast music, only their music that has passion, meaning, and emotion, I like music with a meaning not music just to be a song.

I think black album is the only album like that.

With a few exceptions.


Death Magnetic is just great, better than The Black Album, Kill'em All, Load, ReLoad, and St. Anger. Songs are long, but that's not a real problem. James got a hell of a lot better at melodic parts, solos are shit but still there, which is good. Drumming has improved vastly, riffs are great, this is a really solid album. Loved it.Death magnetic is only better then st anger. imo

[Stormcat]

I've been listening to my cd all weekend - LOVE IT!!!

[UberN00b]

There's a lot of buzz going around about Metallica's new album being "brickwalled, smashed, distorted and noisy" (terms coined from sound production professionals). Even IGN has made an article about it: http://music.ign.com/articles/910/910469p1.html (http://music.ign.com/articles/910/910469p1.html)

Here's a blog from Ian Shepard who is a Mastering Engineer with SRT (http://www.soundrecordingtechnology.co.uk/) who has written extensively about the horrible sound of the album: http://mastering-media.blogspot.com/2008/09/metallica-death-magnetic-stop-loudness.html .

I bought the CD and thought it sounded poorly mixed and mastered within about 5-10 minutes of listening. Everything sounded crunchy and overdriven. Rumors on the Internet suggested the GH3 version was much cleaner and does the album justice. After downloading and playing the album on Guitar Hero 3, I promptly returned my copy of Death Magnetic to the retailer on the grounds of manufacturing defects for a refund. It's a shame that such a great album has been ruined by poor production/engineering decisions or (as some would argue) The Loudness Wars (http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article1878724.ece).

*EDIT* And because I know we're a petition-loving bunch, here is the petition (http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/re-mix-or-remaster-death-magnetic.html) started on September 10th (2 days before official release - lol!) requesting the re-mixing and re-mastering of the album.

[Forsaker]

Last weekend we were out in Münster(Germany) while Metallica had a concert in Berlin.
After the show a friend ("Malte", sitting on the left of me) got a phonecall ... we left the room and came back ~3minutes later with a white skin and a little *shocked* smile in his face.

The guy who has spoken to him was (NO JOKE) James Hetfield.

Sounds strange ...but was exactly like that. A friend of him won a backstrage ticket at a german radio-show from "1LIVE". He met Metallica Backstage and just had the idea to give James his cellphone ;)

After that he gave a CD from Malte and his (small german punk-)Band "Saint Koppschuss" to Lars Ulrich. So probably Metallica has something to put under the ashtray, but its cool anyway.

[Ivaron]

So you think they shouldn't please their fans in order to make less money?!? The only time I'll accept someone calling Metallica a sell-out is when they are describing the number of tickets they sold.:evil:

Well, I personally would not know wether or not they are sell-out, and even if I was a Metallica fan, I still wouldn't care about it :)

[Shredaholic]

I'm not a big fan of the new Metallica, my opinion is that they are a little washed up now. Old Metallica still owns though :).

[Stormcat]

A few lines from an article concerning the album...



LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - "Death Magnetic," which was released worldwide last Friday, went to No. 1 in the United States and Britain, as well as such countries as Argentina, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Poland, and drummer Lars Ulrich's native Denmark.

Warner Bros. said it expected more No. 1 rankings as charts in other countries are finalized. The Warner Music Group Corp unit handles Metallica in the United States and Canada, while Vivendi SA's Universal Music Group has international rights.



Metallica will begin the first leg of a North American tour near Phoenix, Ariz., on October 21.


@Forsaker: Nice - You and your friend were too lucky.

[sepulveda]

i have the album and its ok i guess. definitely better than some of their other recent ones. ride the lightning, and black album are my 2 favorites.

[sepulveda]

i think its ok. some of their solos seem really random and sound like just noise. i dont really like it that much.

[FingolfinGR]

i listened to it where i work (games and music store) and i found it very good. Reminded me alot of their older albums.

some of their solos seem really random and sound like just noise. i dont really like it that much.

thats the thing with thrash metal, isnt it? :P

[monkeychief]

Mediocre at best

[Rev9868]

I haven't had a chance to hear the whole album but I do like the "Day That Never Comes" song.

[Jigsaw]

not as good as there old stuff but not bad

[Lestater]

Blah blah Metallica, this album just got owned by Trivium's 'Shogun'.

[Jarhead89]

Blah blah Metallica, this album just got owned by Trivium's 'Shogun'.

Lol

If it wasnt for Metallica, Trivum wouldnt exist. Metallica are their biggest influence, and Trivium are well known as the biggest wanna-be Metallica out there. Go figure.

[-Mephisto's Lament-]

Blah blah Metallica, this album just got owned by Trivium's 'Shogun'.

This being the funniest post I have ever read on internet forums, and I've been on forums for 4 years.

[Lestater]

I don't give a shit about what inspired bands. But I've listened to both albums and I believe Trivium's is waaay better, specifically the guitars. And it's not like I'm saying Death Magnetic is terrible, because it isn't, but I'm also not saying that Shogun is the shit. All I'm saying is that if you look at both albums seperatelly, for me, Shogun stands out more.

[-Mephisto's Lament-]

Do you like Atreyu, Develdriver, Lamb of God, Dragonfroce..etc ?

[Lestater]

No, not really, I'm more into Psyopus, Beneath The Massacre, The Black Dahlia Murder, Psycroptic, Nile, Necrophagist, Morbid Angel, and War From A Harlot's Mouth when it comes to metal. Although, I don't mind DragonForce from time to time. But mainly just Technical or Melodic Death Metal for me.

[-Mephisto's Lament-]

And you liked Shogun?


....Are you high?

[Lestater]

Hah, I don't know, I just thought it was alright, definitely better then Death Magnetic to me. But neither of them are worthy of multiple listens, I'm just agitated at all the people like "zomgz, it's D34th m4gn3t1ic!!!11!!one!!1one!!"

[Jarhead89]

I don't give a shit about what inspired bands.

Your entitled to your opinion and yours actually makes sense, but this line that you said stood out. With stupidity.

How can you not give a shit about who inspired bands when 90% of the time, influences not only have impact on the music, but the fact that the bands exist. If it werent for bands like Metallica, bands like Trivium would NOT exist, let alone have music that is as good as it is.

[-Mephisto's Lament-]

Hah, I don't know, I just thought it was alright, definitely better then Death Magnetic to me. But neither of them are worthy of multiple listens, I'm just agitated at all the people like "zomgz, it's D34th m4gn3t1ic!!!11!!one!!1one!!"

Death Magnetic is a pretty fucking solid album. It surpasses Kill'em All as an album. It sure brought them up from the shit pit they were in.

[Lestater]

I don't have to like bands that inspired bands, but I can respect them for what they did. However, Death Magnetic is just boring to me, and it doesn't bring anything new to the metal genre.

[Archetype_Zero]

What i like about death Magnetic though is that they didn't clutter it with "filler" songs. Although i doesn't have any totally stand-alone songs, it makes up for it by not having any songs i want to skip. When i listen to death Magnetic, i isten to it beginning to end, no track-skipping.

However, i don't understand why people keep talking about how it's better than their old stuff...the vocals are almost exactly like St. Anger's vocals. And although i personally liked St. Anger, most metallica "fans" hated it.

I like music from all points in the metal spectrum though. Anything from raw black metal (old Satyricon, Darkthrone, Emperor) to "nu" metal and hard rock (Korn, Slipknot, Godsmack) to the weird stuff (ever heard Crotchduster?)

[Murderface]

Going to a Metallica concert this weekend! l,,l:evil:l,,l

[Stormcat]

Going to a Metallica concert this weekend! l,,l:evil:l,,l

Lucky!

Tell us how it goes.

[Murderface]

Lucky!

Tell us how it goes.Even luckier than you think. I didn't even buy my ticket, my friend bought both of ours. 8th row.:P

[Murderface]

Bar none, craziest concert I've ever been to. An indoor arena packed with thousands of black shirt/blue jeaned/ long haired mother fuckers yelling at the top of their lungs "METALLICA!". The Sword and Down were first and everyone was sitting down, but when Metallica came out everyone stood up and stayed up for 2 1/2 hours. Fucking insane pyrotechnics and lasers. They played their fucking hearts out and everyone was head banging. Hetfeild was even able to sing like he could 20 years ago. The last song they played was Seek and Destroy and that was possibly the loudest thing I've ever heard. Everyone was yelling the lyrics at the top of their lungs (while I air guitared). They played all my favorites, and they looked like they had a lot of fun doing it, especially Robert, spinning around with his bass strap barely resting on his shoulder in the middle of sandman (I thought his bass was gonna fly off into the crowd). I could feel the heat off of the pyrotecnics when they went off during the beginning of one and they had some crazy colored flamethrowers that shot up between the amps. Afterwards I ate at a classic restraunt named Winsteads and headed home to get drunk and play Mario Party with my buddies.

EPIC

[Stormcat]

Awwwwwwww - so jealous!:P

Sounds like you had an awesome time. Thanks for sharing!!!