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gamma11
07-15-2008, 12:56 AM
i love rap music... specifically tupac... he speaks to everyone through his music... he knows whats going on and is knowledgeable... this is what our/my generation lacks... someone of influence who can stand up for them and feels the same way as them... someone who they can relate to... since hiphop turned to money and bitches we have no role models... tupac... we need u back homie... i shed tears for you...one love... its just me against the world... thug life...
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applesoffury
07-15-2008, 04:28 AM
i like 2pac too, i aint mad at ya is prolly my fav song of his.
try t.i. hes my personal fav.
he sometimes gets alittle winded about his past, but his lyrics and rhymes are gold
vansoffthewall
07-15-2008, 05:03 AM
why do some ppl say he is still alive?
gamma11
07-15-2008, 12:38 PM
because if u listen to his music he tells u he is...
DarthKarnage
07-15-2008, 04:34 PM
Rap music might have gone down the inspirational shithole in the last several years but metal has grown better than ever, you cant turn around without seeing a metal band with a positive message, Rob Flynn from Machine Head is a great example
gamma11
07-15-2008, 10:03 PM
eh ive tried all genres... the only thing i can get into for metal is dio... and hes like 80s metal but still fuckin awesome
Bambithegreat
07-17-2008, 08:13 AM
tupac i love.
do for love
thugs mansion- ft nas
ghetto gospel
keep your head up
brenda's got a baby
changes
and so on, he's a great lyricist. But to say it has all gone to shit? i think not.
you still got common, kanya west, the game, ice cube (yea he has good songs with positive lyricks) and Nas..
thats just on top of my head.
gamma11
07-18-2008, 09:36 PM
tupac i love.
do for love
thugs mansion- ft nas
ghetto gospel
keep your head up
brenda's got a baby
changes
and so on, he's a great lyricist. But to say it has all gone to shit? i think not.
you still got common, kanya west, the game, ice cube (yea he has good songs with positive lyricks) and Nas..
thats just on top of my head.
ok common is ok but hes switched.. its moer about money with him now... kanye west is fuckin garbage sayin stupid shit on tv and lyrically he is shit... the game possibly my favorite rapper ALIVE but tupac favorite of all time ice cube has gone soft... back in the nwa and predator album days he was street worthy and shit i like nas but the problem is he flip flops alot... but lyrically there are few better... i like lupe fiasco because hes funky and is actually saying something...outkast is good but they havent put out an album in a while... and most of all... i hate fuckin lil wayne... steals otehr rappers lyrics (jayz, biggie, nas, tupac, jam master jay, ll cool jay, ice cube, nwa, the game) fuckin swaggger jacker doesnt even deserve thsi shit... he should go back to selling crack because his garbage music is worse then soulja boy... leme explain why i think this... because lil wayne is making music off of bullshit and others lyrics... at least soulja boy is aimed at younger kids (with the dance and shit) i mean like yea alot of older people have listened to the song but the dance was definately aimed at kids... hurricane chris ayy bayy bayy shows how far hip hop has fallen when that shit makes the top 40...basically now adays to find good rap u gotta go way back or u gotta go underground... talib kweli, immortal technique, eyedea and abilities, the crest etc etc etc
Umpa65
07-18-2008, 10:03 PM
Rap music might have gone down the inspirational shithole in the last several years but metal has grown better than ever, you cant turn around without seeing a metal band with a positive message, Rob Flynn from Machine Head is a great example
no it hasnt, the good are still good and there is new good too, all you hear though is the bad. All the underground stuff these days is revolutionary, the underground scene is pure fire.
like gamma said, theres the hottest shit eva like immortal technique, some sick beat makers like sound scientists
some other hott underground guys like finale, abu nurah and others
screw the mainstream, that has no bearing on hip hop to me
Zero-One
07-19-2008, 12:11 AM
The only thing I know of him is that he stirred some shit up with his girlfriends sister. Called her out because of her mixed heritage, like Russian-Polish/African.
That's about it... Somewhat contradictory to your original post.
I hear Kanye West is a tool also. Like he went all ape shit because Chris Brown got all the attention at some backstage party.
Celebrities, crack me up. :D
applesoffury
07-19-2008, 01:31 AM
underground hip hop sucks. immortal tech and talib are mainstream. just like a tribe called quest, also great.
crap stays underground for a reason, all artists want to make money, no one does it for 'fun', just some are better than others
lil' wayne rips it on mixtapes and freestyle, kanye is lyrical gold even though his head/ego is bigger than the moon, common is boring as hell, lupe is creative, 3 6 has byfare some of the best beats, jay z and nas are still great, t.i. is unbelievable lyricist, all thats better than what i got in the UK, dizzy rascal blows too much...
Bambithegreat
07-19-2008, 11:59 AM
underground hip hop sucks. immortal tech and talib are mainstream. just like a tribe called quest, also great.
crap stays underground for a reason, all artists want to make money, no one does it for 'fun', just some are better than others
agreed.
lil' wayne rips it on mixtapes and freestyle, kanye is lyrical gold even though his head/ego is bigger than the moon, common is boring as hell, lupe is creative, 3 6 has byfare some of the best beats, jay z and nas are still great, t.i. is unbelievable lyricist, all thats better than what i got in the UK, dizzy rascal blows too much...
don't so much agree, Lil Wayne, imo is overrated, you cant understand what he says half the time, and when he freestyles he's never on topic, he's just about everywhere.
agreed on kanye
common is not boring, take some time out and listen to lyricks.
agreed on lupe
and what you got in the uk??!?!?!?!
BEST MOTHA FUKKIN RAPPA EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lady sovereign :thumbsup:
:P
Palisade
07-20-2008, 05:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1nxbbvHheA&feature=related
Wu-Tang is good.
Nas is good too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SsI8vhu-F8
gamma11
07-20-2008, 01:54 PM
underground hip hop sucks. immortal tech and talib are mainstream. just like a tribe called quest, also great.
crap stays underground for a reason, all artists want to make money, no one does it for 'fun', just some are better than others
lil' wayne rips it on mixtapes and freestyle, kanye is lyrical gold even though his head/ego is bigger than the moon, common is boring as hell, lupe is creative, 3 6 has byfare some of the best beats, jay z and nas are still great, t.i. is unbelievable lyricist, all thats better than what i got in the UK, dizzy rascal blows too much...
immortal tech and kweli are like the mainstreams bastard children... mainstream doesnt want them adn the underground doesnt want them either... i consider them underground because 3/4 of the population wouldnt know talib kweli if they heard him or saw him same with immortal tech... lil wayne is such garbage lyrically nothing about his lyrics is inspriing or good hes jsut biting of pac and biggie... kanyes lyrics are trash too... just random bullshit that he thinks sounds good then puts them in a song and makes millions because the average person who listens to hip hop doesnt know what good hiphop is... 3 6 mafia is fuckiin trash they dont even deserve to be a group with their dope boyy dope boy fresh shit... nas is good ti is ok and jayz is played out he needs to stop... yet i hear hes coming out with the blueprint threee... i bought reasonable doubt... only jayz music u actually need... after that its just about money bitches money spliffs money his life money...
Umpa65
08-01-2008, 07:01 AM
immortal tech and kweli are like the mainstreams bastard children... mainstream doesnt want them adn the underground doesnt want them either... i consider them underground because 3/4 of the population wouldnt know talib kweli if they heard him or saw him same with immortal tech... lil wayne is such garbage lyrically nothing about his lyrics is inspriing or good hes jsut biting of pac and biggie... kanyes lyrics are trash too... just random bullshit that he thinks sounds good then puts them in a song and makes millions because the average person who listens to hip hop doesnt know what good hiphop is... 3 6 mafia is fuckiin trash they dont even deserve to be a group with their dope boyy dope boy fresh shit... nas is good ti is ok and jayz is played out he needs to stop... yet i hear hes coming out with the blueprint threee... i bought reasonable doubt... only jayz music u actually need... after that its just about money bitches money spliffs money his life money...
I am amazed at the people that say Wayne has these incredible talents...ok...he can say two words that sound the same..but they never make much sense really....nothing special about him to me.
applesoffury
08-01-2008, 02:44 PM
I am amazed at the people that say Wayne has these incredible talents...ok...he can say two words that sound the same..but they never make much sense really....nothing special about him to me.
his flow is amazing. i didnt like his new album that much, but it was better than his second.
gamma11
08-01-2008, 05:14 PM
thats the thing... waynes flow ISNT amaizing...
applesoffury
08-01-2008, 05:51 PM
thats the thing... waynes flow ISNT amaizing...umm hes one of the best out there when it comes to flow. a milli? lyrical trash but his flow makes it a hit. go dj? one of the best evah!
gamma11
08-01-2008, 06:12 PM
dude... omg if i hear amili one more time... im going to fuckin kill someone.. that song is garbage lyrically, flow, beat everything.... wayne is garbage ugh lolz... go dj... thtas my dj... awful awful song lmfao my friends listen to this shit then i go to my place and jam to pac... i think the song he has thats closest to listenable is that "ladies and gentleman pimps and playas half ass rappers adn tru rhyme sayers" that sogn is the one that i can listen to without blocking it out lol... i can send u some pac biggie eazy-e dre snoop icecube nwa kweli lupe if u like :)
applesoffury
08-01-2008, 06:52 PM
i have pac and big, eazy e is a fag, ice cube released a new track that blows, kweli is the most boring crap ever, and lupe is really good :D
dont hate on people cuz they got money.
underground rap stays underground for a reason.
gamma11
08-02-2008, 08:33 PM
i have pac and big, eazy e is a fag, ice cube released a new track that blows, kweli is the most boring crap ever, and lupe is really good :D
dont hate on people cuz they got money.
underground rap stays underground for a reason.
underground stays underground because people have turned rap from sending a message to hit making moneyfest... thats not rap.... thats shitpop... rap is dying the only people here to revive it are like the game, outkast, lupe, kweli the tru souljas be dead...
eazye isnt a fag first off... ice cube is past his prime... i wouldnt expect anything good from him again and because kweli talks about real life hes boring?
Bambithegreat
08-03-2008, 03:02 AM
i have pac and big, eazy e is a fag, ice cube released a new track that blows, kweli is the most boring crap ever, and lupe is really good :D
dont hate on people cuz they got money.
underground rap stays underground for a reason.
explain yourself.
gamma11
08-10-2008, 07:48 PM
id like a response from apples but apparently he dont know what hes talkin about :-/
applesoffury
08-10-2008, 11:16 PM
he has AIDs. but that was just a crude joke.
ive heard underground rap. it rarely compares to mainstream. thats why underground rap, stays there, all the good underground rappers get discovered sooner or later and release a mainstream track. thats just how the business works.
i agree that real rap is dead/dying, but hip hop is now thriving and taking its place. btw outkast, the game, and lupe are all hip hop artists, not rap artists.
do you think 50 cent is rap then? or even good? because he thinks hes oldschool rap.
anyways, its not like i dont agree that tupac is top 3 on anyones list...
Umpa65
08-11-2008, 12:38 AM
he has AIDs. but that was just a crude joke.
ive heard underground rap. it rarely compares to mainstream. thats why underground rap, stays there, all the good underground rappers get discovered sooner or later and release a mainstream track. thats just how the business works.
i agree that real rap is dead/dying, but hip hop is now thriving and taking its place. btw outkast, the game, and lupe are all hip hop artists, not rap artists.
do you think 50 cent is rap then? or even good? because he thinks hes oldschool rap.
anyways, its not like i dont agree that tupac is top 3 on anyones list...
No, the reason underground is underground is because its real shit. All the public wants to hear is how they have so many hoes, how their money evaporates and falls like rain O_o e.t.c. But you got the underground talking about real life problems, Secret organizations that monopolize governments, poverty. Its real, but most people are retarded and eat up that mainstream.
You clearly dont know what your talking about, go google some underground stuff, listen to a lot of it and what the scene represents and then get back to us.
applesoffury
08-11-2008, 12:52 AM
No, the reason underground is underground is because its real shit. All the public wants to hear is how they have so many hoes, how their money evaporates and falls like rain O_o e.t.c. But you got the underground talking about real life problems, Secret organizations that monopolize governments, poverty. Its real, but most people are retarded and eat up that mainstream.
You clearly dont know what your talking about, go google some underground stuff, listen to a lot of it and what the scene represents and then get back to us.
umm...from atlanta here, hip hop capitol of the US. i have a small idea of what dirty south scene looks and feels like.
yea theres some really good underground, but thats just mine and yours own opinion. also most mainstream guys have more serious tracks that the moody people like, its just not on the radio.
name me some undiscovered rap artists for me then will you? i only know the few over here and they are just desperate.
Umpa65
08-11-2008, 01:00 AM
umm...from atlanta here, hip hop capitol of the US. i have a small idea of what dirty south scene looks and feels like.
yea theres some really good underground, but thats just mine and yours own opinion. also most mainstream guys have more serious tracks that the moody people like, its just not on the radio.
name me some undiscovered rap artists for me then will you? i only know the few over here and they are just desperate.
im not talking dirty south, south is usually not to my liking. As Gammma mentioned, Immortal Technique. Then theres Finale (dudes RAW), Abu Nurah, Sound Scientists, Short Lord, THUNDERKATZ aka T!KAtz, roflz i just now heard about them, i like them, they will be mainstream SOON
applesoffury
08-11-2008, 01:18 AM
im not talking dirty south, south is usually not to my liking. As Gammma mentioned, Immortal Technique. Then theres Finale (dudes RAW), Abu Nurah, Sound Scientists, Short Lord, THUNDERKATZ aka T!KAtz, roflz i just now heard about them, i like them, they will be mainstream SOONgasp! cmon you from da souf!
immortal tech is alright. im more partial to tribe called quest, gangstarr, BG, consequence, Ap, Hieroglyphics, Anwar, Alfa Mega, and a little Mac Lethal lol, j dilla.
wHOOO t!katz is gooooood...glad youve heard of em, they get picked on a lot by 'harder' guys though. you know city slickuz right?
those are the main undiscovered on my itunes. but i much prefer the more polished T.I. and kanye than any of those guys...save tribe and consequence (kanye and lupes brainchild).
Umpa65
08-11-2008, 01:23 AM
gasp! cmon you from da souf!
immortal tech is alright. im more partial to tribe called quest, gangstarr, BG, consequence, Ap, Hieroglyphics, Anwar, Alfa Mega, and a little Mac Lethal lol, j dilla.
wHOOO t!katz is gooooood...glad youve heard of em, they get picked on a lot by 'harder' guys though. you know city slickuz right?
those are the main undiscovered on my itunes. but i much prefer the more polished T.I. and kanye than any of those guys...save tribe and consequence (kanye and lupes brainchild).
I know most of those guys, only about 2 or 3 i didnt recognize, i like T.i. I cant help it rofl. But idono, i jsut dont like most of the southern sound, it seems....like its all bad quality, its not the rhyms, its the beats, i dont like southern beats, a lot of them sound the same to me. But to me, most of the west coast and northern main stream are usually decent, but its overplayed, thats what makes underground so damn cool! nobody ever hears it and when you pop dat raw ass song out everyones like wtf is that crazy cool stuff? lol
applesoffury
08-11-2008, 01:28 AM
I know most of those guys, only about 2 or 3 i didnt recognize, i like T.i. I cant help it rofl. But idono, i jsut dont like most of the southern sound, it seems....like its all bad quality, its not the rhyms, its the beats, i dont like southern beats, a lot of them sound the same to me. But to me, most of the west coast and northern main stream are usually decent, but its overplayed, thats what makes underground so damn cool! nobody ever hears it and when you pop dat raw ass song out everyones like wtf is that crazy cool stuff? lolthats why i get whole albums and not singles. theres tons of better stuff from graduation than stronger and cant tell me nothin. like good morning or bittersweet poetry.
i hate when people overplay good songs from good artists too, kills it for me. makes people like gamma think all artists want the same thing, which is kinda true, no idiot would give up 10 mil just to give a 'message' to todays youth or something.
when you say it sounds all the same, i hope you not talking about crunk...cause that stuff is garbage, except lil' john, hes alright.
do u like midwest or east or west? i prefer mid west and dirty south, none of that houston or memphis trash.
Umpa65
08-11-2008, 01:32 AM
thats why i get whole albums and not singles. theres tons of better stuff from graduation than stronger and cant tell me nothin. like good morning or bittersweet poetry.
i hate when people overplay good songs from good artists too, kills it for me. makes people like gamma think all artists want the same thing, which is kinda true, no idiot would give up 10 mil just to give a 'message' to todays youth or something.
when you say it sounds all the same, i hope you not talking about crunk...cause that stuff is garbage, except lil' john, hes alright.
do u like midwest or east or west? i prefer mid west and dirty south, none of that houston or memphis trash.
East for me. Rofl Lil john is the shit. Most people dont know hes been around FOREVER djin and producin n stuff
Archie
08-11-2008, 03:05 AM
Tupac - Rest in peace brother.
One of the greatest lyricist, songwriter, person ever. Man his music was so good.
Someone mentioned abu nurah and reminded me of Ustad Nusrah Fateh Ali Khan. Some really good new age arabian music.
Personally, rap/hip hop has died for me. I stick with my rock and metal. But I have recently started getting into techno and electronica a LOT. Warp Bros are amazing! Infected Mushroom, Benassi Bros, Psilly-X, Scot Project, they all have awesome beats and music.
gamma11
08-11-2008, 10:03 AM
i cant believe this kid thinks the game isnt real rap... ok 50 cent is pure bullshit but the game is gangster rap dude... its hiphop but in the rap category... the category thats dying... once the game left away from fifty cent and dr dre people shunned him because they didnt think he was cut out for a superstar life... the tru followers of rap realize that the game and people like that are gangsta raps last hope...outkast... ok dont listen to the three outkast songs that are on the radio... listen to the other songs on their cd adn ull get what im talkin about... ATLiens and Aquemeni or Southernplayalisticadillac music or one of those albums and see what they are saying... lupe fiasco has one hit.... the mainstreams like... ur lyrics are wierd but... well accept this one superstar song as ours... the rest of urs can go away... like hop hop saved my life? beautiful song... little weapon? great song with a point... that didnt hit radiowaves... and btw... eazy-e is dead rip... dont make jokes about a dead great thx... im not a huge fan of dirty south... i like outkast from the south and thats about it... jeezy was alright in his first album he was fuckin layin that shit down but after that it was snow man bitches i make it rain in the club... meh... ti is aight... but not great... lil john gets annoying to me but i can deal with him... all i gotta say is fuck man we need more people like the game to bring tru rap to glory... oh btw L.A.X comin out end of august and he said this album to spread word about problems in la and cities around the us.... cop it spread the word
Bambithegreat
08-11-2008, 12:09 PM
i cant believe this kid thinks the game isnt real rap... ok 50 cent is pure bullshit but the game is gangster rap dude... its hiphop but in the rap category... the category thats dying... once the game left away from fifty cent and dr dre people shunned him because they didnt think he was cut out for a superstar life... the tru followers of rap realize that the game and people like that are gangsta raps last hope...outkast... ok dont listen to the three outkast songs that are on the radio... listen to the other songs on their cd adn ull get what im talkin about... ATLiens and Aquemeni or Southernplayalisticadillac music or one of those albums and see what they are saying... lupe fiasco has one hit.... the mainstreams like... ur lyrics are wierd but... well accept this one superstar song as ours... the rest of urs can go away... like hop hop saved my life? beautiful song... little weapon? great song with a point... that didnt hit radiowaves... and btw... eazy-e is dead rip... dont make jokes about a dead great thx... im not a huge fan of dirty south... i like outkast from the south and thats about it... jeezy was alright in his first album he was fuckin layin that shit down but after that it was snow man bitches i make it rain in the club... meh... ti is aight... but not great... lil john gets annoying to me but i can deal with him... all i gotta say is fuck man we need more people like the game to bring tru rap to glory... oh btw L.A.X comin out end of august and he said this album to spread word about problems in la and cities around the us.... cop it spread the word
the game is just as bad as 50?
Chaosdragon94
08-11-2008, 01:35 PM
Not trying to be a troll here (kinda gotta say this in hopes of mods won't friggen think I am when I am really just expressing my opinion), but I'm kind of glad rap is dieing (and I don't care much too). It makes room for other genre's (or more hip-hop, which sucks too) on radio's and to be noticed and shit. Rap music... the lyrics are generally dumb, but that's not why I hate it, the music just bores me. It's boring, slow music. With really no music lol. A few rap/hip-hop songs I may like here and there like this song called Church by T-pain or something? I like that song, because it's fast and full of energy and get's my blood pumping :P
applesoffury
08-11-2008, 05:26 PM
i cant believe this kid thinks the game isnt real rap... ok 50 cent is pure bullshit but the game is gangster rap dude... its hiphop but in the rap category... the category thats dying... once the game left away from fifty cent and dr dre people shunned him because they didnt think he was cut out for a superstar life... the tru followers of rap realize that the game and people like that are gangsta raps last hope...outkast... ok dont listen to the three outkast songs that are on the radio... listen to the other songs on their cd adn ull get what im talkin about... ATLiens and Aquemeni or Southernplayalisticadillac music or one of those albums and see what they are saying... lupe fiasco has one hit.... the mainstreams like... ur lyrics are wierd but... well accept this one superstar song as ours... the rest of urs can go away... like hop hop saved my life? beautiful song... little weapon? great song with a point... that didnt hit radiowaves... and btw... eazy-e is dead rip... dont make jokes about a dead great thx... im not a huge fan of dirty south... i like outkast from the south and thats about it... jeezy was alright in his first album he was fuckin layin that shit down but after that it was snow man bitches i make it rain in the club... meh... ti is aight... but not great... lil john gets annoying to me but i can deal with him... all i gotta say is fuck man we need more people like the game to bring tru rap to glory... oh btw L.A.X comin out end of august and he said this album to spread word about problems in la and cities around the us.... cop it spread the wordthe game is certainly one of the best rappers out there.
i have 4 outkast albums, 2 lupe albums, and some mixtapes saved on my itunes. i know all the songs. go go gadget flow, my fav on the whole cd. i dont even listen to the radio that much at all so i dont even know which other tracks those guys released other than the obvious. jeezy sucks, always has always will, T.I. and Luda are the kings of the south. Chamillionaire is alright for a guy from houston, i have his entire album too.
the scene has changed, rap as you knew it is almost dead, Nas is the last of the best out there.
and 50 cent was not bad at all on get rich, he started to suck badly when g unit was coming out. kanye killed him in their contest.
Umpa65
08-11-2008, 05:49 PM
Not trying to be a troll here (kinda gotta say this in hopes of mods won't friggen think I am when I am really just expressing my opinion), but I'm kind of glad rap is dieing (and I don't care much too). It makes room for other genre's (or more hip-hop, which sucks too) on radio's and to be noticed and shit. Rap music... the lyrics are generally dumb, but that's not why I hate it, the music just bores me. It's boring, slow music. With really no music lol. A few rap/hip-hop songs I may like here and there like this song called Church by T-pain or something? I like that song, because it's fast and full of energy and get's my blood pumping :P
the instrumentals are all music......You sound really dumb saying that it isn't music. Try and....google how to make beats and learn what goes into them. Most every beat is a combination of sample sounds and music.... You cant say it isnt music when it is a giant combination of music. And to generalize all Lyrics also makes you look dumb. First, because of your opinion that doesn't mean too much it makes you seem unqualified to even give your opinion on the subject because it seems that you have most likely probably never heard half of the intellectual stuff it has to offer, even if you were qualified nobody would believe you because of how you presented your argument.
Plus your 13 so i doubt that your exposure to the entire universe that is hip hop old and new isn't very extensive,
Chaosdragon94
08-11-2008, 06:29 PM
the instrumentals are all music......You sound really dumb saying that it isn't music. Try and....google how to make beats and learn what goes into them. Most every beat is a combination of sample sounds and music.... You cant say it isnt music when it is a giant combination of music. And to generalize all Lyrics also makes you look dumb. First, because of your opinion that doesn't mean too much it makes you seem unqualified to even give your opinion on the subject because it seems that you have most likely probably never heard half of the intellectual stuff it has to offer, even if you were qualified nobody would believe you because of how you presented your argument.
Plus your 13 so i doubt that your exposure to the entire universe that is hip hop old and new isn't very extensive,I said not REALLY music. Of course it's music... just not REAL music! :) In other words, I don't think it sounds good and real music to me is metal and rock :)
Also, the rappers don't make the beats.. and also, not too much goes into the beats (well honestly it depends what song, lately a lot more has been going into the beats) but what comes out is boring to my ears.
Lastly, I'm not looking to learn via music. I listen to music for enjoyment. Thank you. Maybe some rappers do have great lyrics you can learn from? Whoop-de-doo, I don't care lol.
Umpa65
08-11-2008, 06:36 PM
I said not REALLY music. Of course it's music... just not REAL music! :) In other words, I don't think it sounds good and real music to me is metal and rock :)
Also, the rappers don't make the beats.. and also, not too much goes into the beats (well honestly it depends what song, lately a lot more has been going into the beats) but what comes out is boring to my ears.
Lastly, I'm not looking to learn via music. I listen to music for enjoyment. Thank you. Maybe some rappers do have great lyrics you can learn from? Whoop-de-doo, I don't care lol.
But to say that they aren't good should really be stated as an opinion and beats that are realy good always have a lot going into them. Its not a matter of difficulty, but a matter of art. You browse samples for hourse looking for that perfect sound and then you can do whatever you want to it to make it fit, its so much fun and takes a really long time to make it really good. And duh of course the rappers dont make the beats, thats irrelevant though.But if you dont like it then you dont like it, i love all music....except country lol
Chaosdragon94
08-11-2008, 07:40 PM
i love all music....except country lolAmen brotha :thumbsup:
Umpa65
08-11-2008, 07:46 PM
Amen brotha :thumbsup:
roflz O_o
Honestly, i have given an earnest effort to try and listen to it. The ridiculous pitch and tone changes those twangy ass guitars, it is just a music that makes my ears want to ingest a bunch of pain killers and blow thier figurative brains out. My poor ears :'(
Im not even gonna touch those lyrics that are about as thought provoking as "YAAAAAAAAAA. WWHHAATTTT? OK!" rofl, but lil john is still cool :P
gamma11
08-11-2008, 11:39 PM
ok i was sayint the game was a good rapper... fifty sucks... luda is ok ti is ok nothin special tho...chamill is not very good... i have 5 outkast albums well 6 if u count the double album speakerboxx/the love below and i listen to them all... i got lupes stuff and listen to that...and kid saying rap isnt music? go fuck your couch... just cuz u dont like somthin dont make it less music than ur stuff...and idk what ur talking about rap is slow... of course the bullshit on the radio has dumb lyrics... because its the fuckin radio... listen to something with depth and meaning... plz dont judge without knowing what the fuck your talking about... thanks
Archie
08-12-2008, 03:30 AM
ok i was sayint the game was a good rapper... fifty sucks... luda is ok ti is ok nothin special tho...chamill is not very good... i have 5 outkast albums well 6 if u count the double album speakerboxx/the love below and i listen to them all... i got lupes stuff and listen to that...and kid saying rap isnt music? go fuck your couch... just cuz u dont like somthin dont make it less music than ur stuff...and idk what ur talking about rap is slow... of course the bullshit on the radio has dumb lyrics... because its the fuckin radio... listen to something with depth and meaning... plz dont judge without knowing what the fuck your talking about... thanks
Well, the kid does kind of have a point. The rappers don't actually make any music whatsoever. They talk to music in different rhyme schemes. So more or less, it is just speaking poetry with music playing in the background.
Don't get me wrong, I still love a ton of the old stuff.
As for 50, I totally agree. If someone has to brag about how many times he was shot in virtually every song, it makes me think that he is not very creative. And then he wears a friggin bullet proof vest everywhere. Come on man!! He is such a poser it isn't even funny.
Actually, it sounds like you and I listen to a lot of the same music. :D
Chaosdragon94
08-12-2008, 03:43 AM
As for 50, I totally agree. If someone has to brag about how many times he was shot in virtually every song, it makes me think that he is not very creative. And then he wears a friggin bullet proof vest everywhere. Come on man!! He is such a poser it isn't even funny.At least his music isn't as BORING as most of the other rappers :/ (still don't like him anyways lol) but yea his lyrics are stupid, as with most artists... like Ludacris and Lil John.
gamma11
08-12-2008, 11:56 AM
50 music gets boring though :(
Archie
08-12-2008, 01:54 PM
At least his music isn't as BORING as most of the other rappers :/ (still don't like him anyways lol) but yea his lyrics are stupid, as with most artists... like Ludacris and Lil John.
I'd say he's better than Lil John, but a worse than Luda. Ludacris I can appreciate. He changes up his music so much, and his rap style is so unique. Luda isn't afraid to do fluctuations in his pitch, unlike most rappers who are only talking. I don't think I've ever heard another rapper with a style similar to his.
Chaosdragon94
08-12-2008, 04:10 PM
I'd say he's better than Lil John, but a worse than Luda. Ludacris I can appreciate. He changes up his music so much, and his rap style is so unique. Luda isn't afraid to do fluctuations in his pitch, unlike most rappers who are only talking. I don't think I've ever heard another rapper with a style similar to his.I was talking about the lyrics.
gamma11
08-12-2008, 11:54 PM
eh lil john is garbage... but ne wayz this is my alltime list:
1. Tupac
2. Notorious B.I.G.
3. Big Pun
4. Outkast
5. Eazy-E
6. Nas
7. Ice Cube
8. Big L
9. Jay-Z
10. Eminem
applesoffury
08-13-2008, 12:34 AM
my list, of only rappers still alive because otherwise its unfair:
1) T.I.
2) Kanye
3) Lupe
my top 3, the rest is like all a tie.
Umpa65
08-13-2008, 12:35 AM
i just listened to the new t.i. album..im sorry....but that shit is DOPE!!!OMG i love like almost every track, shitz BANGIN
gamma11
08-13-2008, 12:36 AM
i just listened to the new t.i. album..im sorry....but that shit is DOPE!!!OMG i love like almost every track, shitz BANGIN
name of album?... ti vs tip was decent so dunno if i need this next one... well just name plz :D
Umpa65
08-13-2008, 12:39 AM
Paper trail. you can go listen to a bunch of his songs on myspace, i just went there out of the blue to see if he had anything new, it all comes out on sept 30th, i got most of the songs already from limewire lol, but i'll buy the album when it comes out
applesoffury
08-13-2008, 12:44 AM
whatever you like is good.
and no matter what is good save the chorus, the chorus is too cheesy, its like hes about to die or something lol...
and all his stuff is good, from im serious to paper trail, hes never disappointed me.
gamma11
08-13-2008, 12:46 AM
or on trapmuzik.com
his official website haha :D
Umpa65
08-13-2008, 12:49 AM
lol that chorus does kinda make it seem way more epic than it really is, and the video too, its a LITTLE silly, but still raw lol
And also, A better day
That song is soooooo cool, omg i could listen to it over and over. I sprint, so a lot of my training is running, and music and running go well together and T.I. songs have always usually been my motivation songs and i can listen to all these just like it. Da man's music is dope
Bambithegreat
08-17-2008, 12:58 AM
hm, mm.... heres 3 list..
top 10 Favorite songs
1.Tupac-Changes
2. Tupac-ghetto gospel
3.tupac- Brenda's got a baby
4. Akon- put the blame on me
5. Tupac- dear mama
6. Nwa- the gangsta, the killa, and the dope dealer
7. Bone brothers- What's friends
8.Tupac- picture me rolling
9 Tupac- only god can judge me
10. tupac- wonder why they call you bitch
BASS Head's will understand this list.
1.Throw it up
2. Slow it up
3. chevy ridding high
4. tha blow
5. slow it up
Top 3 Favorite rappers.
Tupac
Eazy-e
Bone thugs.
Lestater
08-17-2008, 05:12 AM
It's hard for me to get into rap, the lyrics really gotta be good and send a message for me to even remotely care, Tupac really doesn't do it for me.
LinkX
08-17-2008, 09:44 AM
Didn't that tupac fellow die then more music was found and released by him? Creepy ass dude...
Archie
08-17-2008, 08:04 PM
Didn't that tupac fellow die then more music was found and released by him? Creepy ass dude...
Yeah, same deal as with Kurt Cobain. :( RIP.
gamma11
08-18-2008, 11:30 AM
Didn't that tupac fellow die then more music was found and released by him? Creepy ass dude...
yes but i dont think he died... ithink he was attempted to be killed twice and then entered a govt program... i think witness protection program to protect himself his mother and his assets..... he has released more posthumous albums then most people release in their career and hes got another one coming out eventually with as they put it "20 previously unreleased tracks" but in all honesty.... he aint dead
.KILLING-HAZARD.
08-18-2008, 12:20 PM
i like ghost by tupac and thug luv by tupac and bthugs n h. and bone bone bone by b thugs n h.
gamma11
08-26-2008, 01:37 PM
eh bone thugz only got a few good songs that ive heard... some are just kinda boring :-/
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