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Crysis Creed
07-06-2008, 09:50 PM
Tell me if you like them or h8 them,and tell me your favorite song of their's.
My favorite song of their's is currently Numb.

Strikezone
07-06-2008, 11:42 PM
Hmph favorite song... I can't remember the name right now. Ugh...
Yeah they're good. Though I've gotten tired of them myself.

tkrow21
07-06-2008, 11:48 PM
Their new album was an overhyped piece of crap that fell on its knees in comparison to Meteora.

will_I_am
07-07-2008, 12:02 AM
hybrid theory was there best album

Eldius
07-07-2008, 12:41 AM
Their new album was an overhyped piece of crap that fell on its knees in comparison to Meteora.

The above statement is true. A couple of days after I purchased Minutes to Midnight, my heart was filled with shame and regret.

Siaynoq
07-07-2008, 12:45 AM
Am I trolling if I expressed how much I hated that band? Cause this thread is to discuss this band, right?

Ivaron
07-07-2008, 01:24 AM
Am I trolling if I expressed how much I hated that band? Cause this thread is to discuss this band, right?
I think people will just ignore you :P

Anyways, I think In The End is my favorite LP song. But there are so many of them that have a special meaning to me :)

FingolfinGR
07-07-2008, 02:17 AM
loved Hybrid Theory and Minutes to Midnight albums. Currently i listen alot to "With You" from Hybrid Theory.

The_wind
07-07-2008, 03:04 AM
though i think there new album wasent as good, and was really over-hyped.. i think there a good band to bring out your inner emo/angst/just when your having a bad day/want to kill something.

Anphicar
07-08-2008, 12:56 PM
I agree, the latest album sucks. Sorry. It does.

Many like Hybrid Theory the best. I tend to LOVE Meteroa much more, but of course all of the songs from Hybrid Theory are awesome (especially Points of Authority!)

JAZZ
07-08-2008, 01:29 PM
Their new album was an overhyped piece of crap that fell on its knees in comparison to Meteora.

I own meteora! lol

Archie
07-08-2008, 02:07 PM
I'm sorry, but all of you guys have to admit that Hands Held High is a brilliant song.

Given Up, Bleed it Out, Inbetween, The Little Things that Give you Away, and Sorrow are all good songs.

Kill me if you must, but I have to admit, I really like Valentine's day. ^_^

What I've done and In Pieces are okay, kind of boring. Not different enough. So I'm indifferent to those.

But yeah, Leave out all the Rest and Shadow of the Day do suck.

Come on, that's only 2 songs on an album that were not very good. I am sure some of you just listened to the radio play Shadow of the Day over and over again, and said "That album sucks." :rolleyes:

LinkX
07-08-2008, 02:11 PM
I love the song "In the end"... It's the only song I have heard of but I love it...


Also this thread feels awfully familiar... I think there was another Linkin Park thread... But I can't seem to find it...

Tehstickleman
07-08-2008, 02:12 PM
Papercut hands down is my favorite. And I have to agree with the comments about Minutes to Midnight.. There are only a couple good(ish) songs on there but every time I think about the album I just get disgusted.

DarthKarnage
07-08-2008, 02:20 PM
Tell me if you like them or h8 them,and tell me your favorite song of their's.
My favorite song of their's is currently Numb.

Utter Crap :thumbsup:

Warlord55
07-08-2008, 03:29 PM
i like that band, my favorite song is what i've done

Archie
07-08-2008, 10:07 PM
i like that band, my favorite song is what i've done

Ick. I actually detest that song. Probably only because the radio played that song 20 times a day when the album was released. I mean it really is an okay song, but to me it gets a little annoying after the 10000000th time.

applesoffury
07-08-2008, 11:41 PM
there okay.

Anphicar
07-09-2008, 11:02 AM
No, i bought the album expecting the typical awesome goodness usual to LP. Then i listened to it and nearly puked.

I hate their rap-remixes with Jay-Z and crap too........

InvincibleEMP
07-09-2008, 11:09 AM
hybrid theory was really good but I personally liked reanimation better. fav. songs would be FRGT/10 (reanimation version of forgotten). I also like "a place for my head" "runaway" "PPR:KUT" "hi voltage" "hit the floor" and others that i can't remember right now. I didn't care too much for meteora, only liked about 4 songs on the album. the jay-z album sucked ass. I hate jay-z. and minutes to midnight was crappy.

Warlord55
07-09-2008, 02:37 PM
Ick. I actually detest that song. Probably only because the radio played that song 20 times a day when the album was released. I mean it really is an okay song, but to me it gets a little annoying after the 10000000th time.
i know what you mean, the radio played never to late all the time, now they are playing rise above this a lot

Wibii
07-10-2008, 07:30 PM
'What I've Done' tbh. :rolleyes:

Kenzai
07-17-2008, 08:27 PM
I hate them so much...

I would take their Diablo copies away!!!

YES I WOULD!

JAZZ
07-17-2008, 09:52 PM
I don't like the music video for 'What I've Done'

Warlord55
07-21-2008, 04:08 PM
I don't like the music video for 'What I've Done'
as long as the music is good i dont care about the video

backstreetboy-n-
07-21-2008, 04:28 PM
they are the best rock band ever.. all of their songs are awesome.. but the last album sucks!!!

Kenzai
07-25-2008, 09:27 AM
they are the best rock band ever.. all of their songs are awesome.. but the last album sucks!!!

*laughes at account name*

Its not rock what they do.

Combine
08-19-2008, 06:20 PM
I don't like linkin park much due to their lead singer singing in such a high tone. It makes me want to find out where he lives and shove a voice box down his throat. But the second singer guy,sounds like a raper, I don't mind him much.

winstonthe4th
08-19-2008, 06:34 PM
I think Linkin Park is awesome.

My favourite album is definitely Meteora, with Hybrid Theory coming in close.

Minutes to Midnight was alright, but the only really good songs in my opinion were What I've Done and Shadow of the Day.

My favourite song would definitely Breaking the Habit, followed closely by Papercut.

JAZZ
08-19-2008, 07:11 PM
I have meteora :D

Lestater
08-20-2008, 03:26 AM
If you like Linkin Park, take that quote out of your signature JAZZ.

-Mephisto's Lament-
08-20-2008, 10:55 AM
Nu Metal is horrible, and I will leave it at that.

Combine
08-20-2008, 12:04 PM
Your face is horrible ;-;, metal<3

winstonthe4th
08-20-2008, 12:06 PM
Nu Metal is horrible, and I will leave it at that.Nu Metal has System of a Down. And thinking that System of a Down is horrible is just plain stupid.

-Mephisto's Lament-
08-20-2008, 12:37 PM
Your face is horrible ;-;, metal<3

Nu-Metal isn't Metal, Metal was just thrown in that name because posers want to look cool. It has no real component to classify it as "Metal". Using DJ stands and equipment, utilizing rapping in songs (i.e Slipknot *shudders*) playing downtuned guitars, and having horrid end results does not qualify them in any way shape or form to be counted in such a genre.

Nu Metal has System of a Down. And thinking that System of a Down is horrible is just plain stupid.

No, it isn't. Thinking System of a Down are horrible is just like thinking Trivium are horrible, it's just true. A vocalist who sounds like an angry hippy, a generic drummer, absolutely no importance to their bass, and bland, disturbing, talentless guitar playing to add to the horror.

.KILLING-HAZARD.
08-20-2008, 12:49 PM
band sucks now.. never liked em and never will. its all about immortal technique and cassidy :P:P

Combine
08-20-2008, 04:18 PM
Oh , sorry. Thought you said metal sucks. SoD sucked,LP sucks. I go for metalica the most. Fade to black<3

winstonthe4th
08-20-2008, 07:49 PM
No, it isn't. Thinking System of a Down are horrible is just like thinking Trivium are horrible, it's just true. A vocalist who sounds like an angry hippy, a generic drummer, absolutely no importance to their bass, and bland, disturbing, talentless guitar playing to add to the horror.I don't really care how closed minded you will be towards System of a Down, Linkin Park and Nu Metal in general, but thinking they're horrible and talentless is a point of view worth laughing at.

JAZZ
08-20-2008, 07:56 PM
I only like ONE song from system of a down and thats Aerials.


If you like Linkin Park, take that quote out of your signature JAZZ.

Ha, Linkin park isnt bad and I know it doesnt fit my quote but they still have good music, or al least they used to.


I go for metalica the most. Fade to black<3


That is so weird....

That is my favorite song out of any band... ever.... and I used that song as an example for the quote in my sig.

winstonthe4th
08-20-2008, 08:49 PM
I only like ONE song from system of a down and thats Aerials.It's not about whether or not System of a Down is likeable to the individual person, with every band there will be people who dislike them and people who like them, its whether or not they're a horrible band. Which they are not.

-Mephisto's Lament-
08-21-2008, 06:04 AM
I don't really care how closed minded you will be towards System of a Down, Linkin Park and Nu Metal in general, but thinking they're horrible and talentless is a point of view worth laughing at.

Close minded? I listen to everything, even everything I don't like, just to see what the huge fuss is about, and so I don't mindlessly trash it for the sake of it. If you can definitively prove to me that Nu Metal has a shred of talent or worthiness, and how they aren't just some mindless garbage thrown together to impress Hot Topic posers and trend followers, who get one album or go to one concert then pretend to be some major fan of some band, then I will bow down to you. It's garbage, as simple as that. Takes no talent to make. Look at Megadeth, excellent riffs (i.e Take no Prisoners), excellent lyrical themes and vocals pertaining intelligent and important subject. Great bass, just astounding drumming (Menza, hello....) and even more amazing solos. Look at Slipknot. How many members do they have? Like...9? Masks? DJ stand? Rapping? Calling their fans maggots? That must have imbeen a typo where the m was put in place of the f. They keep shouting cuss words and acting all angry when it fools noone of any significant importance. Linkin Park and System of a Down? Downtuned guitars of absolute ZERO importance? Barely heard bass IF ANY? Generic and absolutely ridiculous drumming? Shouting like your balls just dropped off, about subject that are absolutely ridiculous and of no importance?

Come one, prove to me what you're saying, please.

Oh , sorry. Thought you said metal sucks. SoD sucked,LP sucks. I go for metalica the most. Fade to black<3

You can't even spell Metallica correctly, for God's sake.

winstonthe4th
08-21-2008, 04:39 PM
Close minded? I listen to everything, even everything I don't like, just to see what the huge fuss is about, and so I don't mindlessly trash it for the sake of it. If you can definitively prove to me that Nu Metal has a shred of talent or worthiness, and how they aren't just some mindless garbage thrown together to impress Hot Topic posers and trend followers, who get one album or go to one concert then pretend to be some major fan of some band, then I will bow down to you. It's garbage, as simple as that.Takes no talent to make.How do they not have talent? I believe that there are some talentless Nu Metal bands, but there are also some talented ones. Categorizing an entire genre as talentless is just plain stupid. Now some of them are talented (Linkin Park, System of a Down) because they're able to create fairly original and entertaining music as a band. As for individual members talent, the guitarist you seem to hate, the System of a Down one, is far from a talentless guitarist. He has a fair amount of fast and original riffs, which he can actually play. Linkin Park debatably has Chester for talent, as he can sing his part quite well live on a regular basis, which more than your megadeth's singer can do, he can barely sing in the studio. As well, both Linkin Park and System of a Down put on really great live shows. Now of course, most of the above is based on opinion, so you will most likely be ignoring mine and claiming exactly the opposite of what I said. Look at Megadeth, excellent riffs (i.e Take no Prisoners), excellent lyrical themes and vocals pertaining intelligent and important subject. Great bass, just astounding drumming (Menza, hello....) and even more amazing solos.Right, bring in a thrash metal band when debating talent. I'll just say that Megadeth lacks creativity. Look at their name as an example. Look at Slipknot. How many members do they have? Like...9? Masks? DJ stand? Rapping? Calling their fans maggots? That must have imbeen a typo where the m was put in place of the f. They keep shouting cuss words and acting all angry when it fools noone of any significant importance.I don't care about Slipknot. Linkin Park and System of a Down? Downtuned guitars of absolute ZERO importance?Zero importance? O.o Do you even listen to the songs with ears that are willing to listen? Come back when you've actually listened. Barely heard bass IF ANY? Generic and absolutely ridiculous drumming?The bass I can't comment on as I rarely listen to bassists anyway, besides Geddy Lee and Flea. As for the drumming, I'm unsure of how drumming can be generic and ridiculous at the same time.Shouting like your balls just dropped off, about subject that are absolutely ridiculous and of no importance?I was unaware that Megadeth sang about things that mattered.

-Mephisto's Lament-
08-21-2008, 06:54 PM
Something that sounds good, then gets old after 4 or 5 listens, isn't called "good music". Something which appeals to posers, isn't good music, drop that useless argument. You want a good guitarist? Go listen to Skolnick, Suicmez, or Mustaine. Wait wait, you're actually dissing Dave Mustaine, on of the single most important persons in Metal HISTORY, and saying some idiot from Linkin Park is better? Just for that, I'm gonna say fuck to the remainder of your entire bullshit reply, because that tells me how much of a retard you are, and I do not address retards. Have a good day at Hot Topic. I did read the remainder though, all I have to say is LOL, later.

winstonthe4th
08-21-2008, 11:41 PM
Something that sounds good, then gets old after 4 or 5 listens, isn't called "good music". Something which appeals to posers, isn't good music, drop that useless argument.Right... What argument was I arguing? I was arguing that Nu Metal was not talentless. I'm not sure how that relates to their fanbase or even how appealing the music may be to you. You want a good guitarist? Go listen to Skolnick, Suicmez, or Mustaine. Wait wait, you're actually dissing Dave Mustaine, on of the single most important persons in Metal HISTORY, and saying some idiot from Linkin Park is better? Just for that, I'm gonna say fuck to the remainder of your entire bullshit reply, because that tells me how much of a retard you are, and I do not address retards.Fail.

Where did I say the Megadeth guitarist was worse than the Linkin Park guitarist? Where did I even diss the Megadeth guitarist? I think that tells me how much of a retard you are on the other hand, either that or you have a reading disability of some sort.

And for a good guitarist, I prefer Jimmy Page, Alex Lifeson, Slash and Ritchie Blackmore, just my personal favourites.

Lestater
08-22-2008, 01:01 AM
Nu Metal is a pretty annoying genre. It's an odd place between, tone-downed metal with terrible screaming and for the most part emo or unintelligent lyrics. Linkin Park isn't the worst of it, and one or two of their songs aren't terrible. SOAD is another story though... If you honestly think that's a creative outlook on music then you need to be shot in the head right now by .50 caliber sniper rifle.

-Mephisto's Lament-
08-22-2008, 05:30 AM
Right... What argument was I arguing? I was arguing that Nu Metal was not talentless. I'm not sure how that relates to their fanbase or even how appealing the music may be to you. Fail.

Where did I say the Megadeth guitarist was worse than the Linkin Park guitarist? Where did I even diss the Megadeth guitarist? I think that tells me how much of a retard you are on the other hand, either that or you have a reading disability of some sort.

And for a good guitarist, I prefer Jimmy Page, Alex Lifeson, Slash and Ritchie Blackmore, just my personal favourites.

You're literally the laughing stock and scorn of the entire Metal community, not only me, and don't act like that's somehow a lie. You're talking out of your ass like what I'm saying isn't true or something, while it's just pointing out the obvious. I will take the time to prove it to you as well.

Mustaine plays guitar for Megadeth, him and the other guitarist share lead, you'd know that if you knew shit about what you're saying. You're an Nu Metal fan, that's the only insult I'm gonna use, since it's that fucking horrible.

All those fail to compare, bar Slash maybe.

Ok, so what themes does Nu Metal take? They cuss loudly, and they're annoying, about shit not pertaining any subject of importance. Let's take these examples to oppose them.

Metal talks about the following subjects: Gambling (e.g Train of Consequences by Megadeth), Drugs (Master of Puppets by Metallica), Social Issues (Youthanasia by Megadeth), General Issues (Blood of Heroes by Megadeth, Sanitarium by Metallica, Holy Wars...The Punishment Due by Megadeth), Criticism of the System/Government/Whatever (And Justice For All by Megadeth, Skin 'O My Teeth by Megadeth), Mythical Figures and Philosophy (Countless hints in a countless amount of songs which I won't even bother citing).

Musical Elements in Metal include the following.

The use of entire symphonies (Emperor, Dimmu Borgir), the use of clean, great vocals (James Hetfield, Chuck Billy) the use of higher pitched clean voals (Dave Mustaine, King Diamond), heavy growls (bands like Psycroptic, Hate Eternal, and Cephalic Carnage), higher pitched growling (Carpathian Forest, Gaahl from Gorgoroth), entire choruses(Blind Guardian), operatic vocals (Tarja Turunen) and countless other things.

Metal takes an immense amount of talent, incorporating guitar with Bass, drumming, vocals style, keyboard incorporation, including symphonies in songs, even concerts (S&M by Metallica). Writing down suitable riffs, bass that follows, even bass solos (Call of Ktulu by Metallica, Angelripper in Sodom..), amazing drumming (Paul Bostaph, Hellhammer, Nick Menza...) all of wh ich stand the test of time.

Now please tell me, how does Nu Metal compare to all of that, better yet, how does it even fit in. Don't think I'm only talking about Nu Metal, you also get Metalcore idiots to tag along the poser wagon. Rapping, hving DJ stands, yelling out words like some boykissing Hardcore douchebag, saying cuss words out loud and doing all those idiotic antics do not get you into Metal, they're what takes you OUT of it.

By God, if you prove one point I made wrong, I will literally make a video of me bowing down to you.

winstonthe4th
08-22-2008, 03:21 PM
Nu Metal is a pretty annoying genre. It's an odd place between, tone-downed metal with terrible screaming and for the most part emo or unintelligent lyrics. Linkin Park isn't the worst of it, and one or two of their songs aren't terrible. SOAD is another story though... If you honestly think that's a creative outlook on music then you need to be shot in the head right now by .50 caliber sniper rifle.SoaD is creative because they're a band that is part of an obscure genre such as Nu Metal, not only that, but they combine many elements of normal metal as well, which is stretching outside the norm of even Nu Metal. And before you say that Nu Metal is not obscure, it was when SoaD formed. Being part of your own genre, by definition would lead me to believe that you are creative.

You're literally the laughing stock and scorn of the entire Metal community, not only me, and don't act like that's somehow a lie. You're talking out of your ass like what I'm saying isn't true or something, while it's just pointing out the obvious. I will take the time to prove it to you as well.Right...If I was part of the metal community. Prog rock ftw? As for being knowledgable about music in general, I have many things that can back me up in that.


Mustaine plays guitar for Megadeth, him and the other guitarist share lead, you'd know that if you knew shit about what you're saying. You're an Nu Metal fan, that's the only insult I'm gonna use, since it's that fucking horrible.Right, so I'm supposed to know random trivia on bands. Just because I don't know that how Megadeth is made up does not mean I have not heard Megadeth. As for being a Nu Metal fan, wrong. Prog rock > all. Really, I'm just standing up for bands that don't deserve to be critisized in the fashion that you're doing it.


All those fail to compare, bar Slash maybe.Right...Fail to compare? Ritchie Blackmore being a more inspirational and better metal guitarist than Megadeth, SoaD and Linkin Park has. Jimmy Page was an influence for not only metal guitarists, but the entire guitarist population. Alex Lifeson is just awesome to listen to:D.

Ok, so what themes does Nu Metal take? They cuss loudly, and they're annoying, about shit not pertaining any subject of importance. Let's take these examples to oppose them.Hooray for biased and closed minded evaluation!

Metal talks about the following subjects: Gambling (e.g Train of Consequences by Megadeth), Drugs (Master of Puppets by Metallica), Social Issues (Youthanasia by Megadeth), General Issues (Blood of Heroes by Megadeth, Sanitarium by Metallica, Holy Wars...The Punishment Due by Megadeth), Criticism of the System/Government/Whatever (And Justice For All by Megadeth, Skin 'O My Teeth by Megadeth), Mythical Figures and Philosophy (Countless hints in a countless amount of songs which I won't even bother citing).

Musical Elements in Metal include the following.

The use of entire symphonies (Emperor, Dimmu Borgir), the use of clean, great vocals (James Hetfield, Chuck Billy) the use of higher pitched clean voals (Dave Mustaine, King Diamond), heavy growls (bands like Psycroptic, Hate Eternal, and Cephalic Carnage), higher pitched growling (Carpathian Forest, Gaahl from Gorgoroth), entire choruses(Blind Guardian), operatic vocals (Tarja Turunen) and countless other things.Alright, as Nu Metal is a developing, smaller and relatively newer genre in relation to metal, they should be expected to have much less elements incorporated.

So, I'm not an expert of Nu Metal, as I don't listen to it a lot, truthfully I have almost no material to use against this. But we've got Linkin Park which has the rapping style from Mike Shinoda and the screaming and normal singing from Chester. System of a Down has the main vocalists odd, but very fast style of nearly speaking, which also incorporates one of the oddest harmonies with the guitarist I believe, who's the harmony, yet screeches and of course has his own screams in various places. Linkin Park has so many sound effects incorporated into their songs. They also have the one of the scratching record things incorporated into a lot of songs. Issues addressed are varied, as SoaD has many songs devoted to war, the government and other political issues. Linkin Park covers the more emotional and tender side of things including parents-child relationships, relationships between males and females and depression, with the exception of their newest album, which includes (I'm led to believe) environmental issues among other things.

As I've mentioned above, my knowledge of Nu Metal is small, my terminology is weak and my attention to the genre is only comprised of SoaD and Linkin Park.

Metal takes an immense amount of talent, incorporating guitar with Bass, drumming, vocals style, keyboard incorporation, including symphonies in songs, even concerts (S&M by Metallica).Nu Metal also incorporates a lot of this, as it has guitars, bass (I know you don't believe this to be true, but listen more closely), drumming, multiple vocal styles in the same song, sound effects etc. Writing down suitable riffs, bass that follows, even bass solos (Call of Ktulu by Metallica, Angelripper in Sodom..), amazing drumming (Paul Bostaph, Hellhammer, Nick Menza...)Once again, a wider genre has more variation. all of wh ich stand the test of time.They have no stood the test of time as they have not been around for long enough to stand the test of time, please don't exagerate.

Now please tell me, how does Nu Metal compare to all of that, better yet, how does it even fit in. Don't think I'm only talking about Nu Metal, you also get Metalcore idiots to tag along the poser wagon. Rapping, hving DJ stands, yelling out words like some boykissing Hardcore douchebag, saying cuss words out loud and doing all those idiotic antics do not get you into Metal, they're what takes you OUT of it.Ah, so your main problem is the name of the genre itself. You feel that they are not true metal, so you are always going to be biased against it because you believe they do not fall into the category of metal. In which case, I advise you to take a step back and ignore the name of the genre as the names of genres are completely ridiculous (Grunge, funk, hip hop even rock itself) and don't really make too much sense. I do not believe that Nu Metal is true metal either, but I am still able to respect the genre enough to give some bands a fair listen.

As well, you seem pretty obsessed about that Metal has more talent than Nu Metal. If you want talent, I would definitely recommend Progressive Rock/Metal. Pink Floyd, Rush, Genesis, Tool, Dream Theater, Coheed and Cambria, Yes, Jethro Tull, Muse etc. The talent found within these bands is astounding.

By God, if you prove one point I made wrong, I will literally make a video of me bowing down to you.That would be pretty cool.

This by the way, is my final post (or at least, I intend it to be) on the matter. I feel that we've gone over everything we can possibly go over and if you still refuse to be more open minded towards Nu Metal (please do not call me a hypocrite because I am not open minded towards more typical metal, this is not true. Metallica and Deep Purple are far superior to any Nu Metal band in my opinion), then there is not much else to be done here.

.KILLING-HAZARD.
08-22-2008, 03:26 PM
wow battles of walls and blocks of text.. who will win..??

WE WILL FIND OUT ON THE NEXT EPISODE OF.....TEXT WARS!!!

:offtopic::offtopic:

-Mephisto's Lament-
08-22-2008, 06:07 PM
SoaD is creative because they're a band that is part of an obscure genre such as Nu Metal, not only that, but they combine many elements of normal metal as well, which is stretching outside the norm of even Nu Metal. And before you say that Nu Metal is not obscure, it was when SoaD formed. Being part of your own genre, by definition would lead me to believe that you are creative.

They aren't creative, they're just like any other shitty band of the exact same genre. Nu Metal isn't an obscure genre, it's just an undetermined bullshit slapped together to get cash off poser idiots. Normal Metal? There's Metal, and non Metal music. Nu Metal is non-Metal, shut up about that already. Tell me some stuff System do that other bands don't, please.

Alright, as Nu Metal is a developing, smaller and relatively newer genre in relation to metal, they should be expected to have much less elements incorporated.

So, I'm not an expert of Nu Metal, as I don't listen to it a lot, truthfully I have almost no material to use against this. But we've got Linkin Park which has the rapping style from Mike Shinoda and the screaming and normal singing from Chester. System of a Down has the main vocalists odd, but very fast style of nearly speaking, which also incorporates one of the oddest harmonies with the guitarist I believe, who's the harmony, yet screeches and of course has his own screams in various places. Linkin Park has so many sound effects incorporated into their songs. They also have the one of the scratching record things incorporated into a lot of songs. Issues addressed are varied, as SoaD has many songs devoted to war, the government and other political issues. Linkin Park covers the more emotional and tender side of things including parents-child relationships, relationships between males and females and depression, with the exception of their newest album, which includes (I'm led to believe) environmental issues among other things.

As I've mentioned above, my knowledge of Nu Metal is small, my terminology is weak and my attention to the genre is only comprised of SoaD and Linkin Park.

Nu Metal isn't as new as you put it out to be. Thanks for just proving my point by the way, Metal has no rapping, thanks for saying that yourself..therefore, your entire post is flawed. Covering bullshit like child molestation, love, and all that crap is overdone, it sucks, even when some Metal bands do it..some though, manage to pull it off perfectly.

Nu Metal also incorporates a lot of this, as it has guitars, bass (I know you don't believe this to be true, but listen more closely), drumming, multiple vocal styles in the same song, sound effects etc.

No it doesn't, unless you can prove it. I don't have to listen carefully to make out the bass, it should be present regardless.

In resposne to that huge blob of nonsensical bullshit that you typed down, I don't call it gay because I don't listen to it, or because it's not Metal, I don't listen to it because it's gay. I hope that little statement didn't crash 60 million gray cells in your brain, which are already half dead anyway.

Lestater
08-22-2008, 06:34 PM
SoaD is not creative, listen to J-rock, mindless screaming has been done for years, they unfortunately can't pull it off.

-Mephisto's Lament-
08-22-2008, 06:55 PM
Apparently, basic downtuned guitar playing, no bass, idiotic drumming, and annoying vocals is creative.

Archetype_Zero
10-21-2008, 09:31 AM
I don't mind their music, but i don't consider myself a fan of them...

I'm more into heavier music, and LP was actually one of the bands i liked when i was just finding out about heavy music in general. I liked them until i heard some of the really heavy and unconventional stuff (Cannibal Corpse, Slipknot, At the Gates)

I've heard LP's latest cd, and to me it sounded like pop rock. In fact, some songs weren't even rock at all, they were just pop...

SNowfreak
11-04-2008, 03:24 PM
i am (or was) a HUGE fan of linkin park. I have seen them in concert and they were OUTSTANDING. This was of course before the new album lol. The new album is good (not amazing)...but its just SOOOO different from their old stuff which i myslef loved. They were probablly my favorite band until the new album came out. IMO they used to be unique and now they are just a run of the mill band.

Strills
11-04-2008, 04:07 PM
Linking Park was the band that first got me into some heavier music. I'm glad they did, but now they've lost their former glory, sadly.

I don't mind listening to them sometimes though, some stuff is great.

stebo88
11-05-2008, 06:37 PM
I like LP, they're awesome and fantastic, but their last album was a big disapointment, but I still liked their last album, it just wasn't as good as Hybrid Theory and Meteora.

Minutes to Midnight went all emo-ish.

InstantLite
11-11-2008, 06:20 PM
either give leave out all the rest or a place for my head

cheebalover
11-11-2008, 06:25 PM
i dont like them..i mean they got some nice tunes, and the lead singer is ok...but i cant stand that other guy that sings and repeats after him...argh!!

whiteghost21
12-13-2008, 04:52 PM
one of my top ten, i didn't think their new album was bad. Bleed it out is my favorite song, especially before my football games, gets me pumped. I wish it was longer though, seems too short.

DaWg
12-16-2008, 02:20 AM
I like Linkin Park..I think their best album was Hybrid Theory..Minutes to Midnight was decent I guess.

VegasRage
12-16-2008, 02:55 AM
They're OK, have Hybrid Theory but don't listen to it much I prefer to list a few (not necessarily in this order)

New(er) School
Tool
System Of A Down
Rage Against the Machine
Marilyn Manson
Seven Dust
KORN
The Crystal Method
Nickelback
Celldweller
Disturbed
Rob Zombie (at least the few songs that were good)
Powerman 5000 (at least the few songs that were good)


Old School (Hey I'm old enough to remember the first episode of Sesame Street)
Rush
YES
Led Zeppelin
Robert Plant
Police
Tangerine Dream
Van Halen
The Cure
Depeche Mode
The Who
Pink Floyd (so worn out now though, just played too much)

deathMars
12-16-2008, 03:30 AM
It's an okay band. Hybris Theory was the best, and some other decent albums, but they're a band where you listen, you say "that was a good song", and then change the station.

Zubin
12-16-2008, 07:42 AM
Ah they are good.

I had a friend who liked them as well.

'What i've done' is my fave from them.

Ivaron
12-18-2008, 03:38 AM
Ahh, to think of that time when I was a teen, completely addicted to Linkin Park and feeling like a total badass when I listened to them.
Seriously though, they're good. I still listen to them every once in a while. In The End is a favorite.

Eldius
12-18-2008, 04:43 AM
The best three songs by Linkin Park are all extra tracks.

High Voltage
Part Of Me
Carousel

Zubin
12-18-2008, 05:36 AM
'In the end' focused on Shinoda's rap. Chester had the end part for himself. I liked it for that.

I like chester but shinoda doesn't get to sing in most LP songs much. At least not in those that i have listened to.

kefka666333abc123
12-19-2008, 01:57 AM
I hate them for the most part.....one of the worst bands to come outta that nu metal era or whatever its called.

Eldius
12-19-2008, 02:33 AM
I hate them for the most part.....one of the worst bands to come outta that nu metal era or whatever its called.

No, there is far worse...

kefka666333abc123
12-19-2008, 02:37 AM
No, there is far worse...

There far from the best IMO VERY far...not that many good bands came out of that era

Eldius
12-19-2008, 03:24 AM
There far from the best IMO VERY far...not that many good bands came out of that era

I agree. Linkin Park isn't the best band in the world, but it is tolerable when compared to bands like Dragonforce or Fallout Boy.

kefka666333abc123
12-19-2008, 07:49 AM
I agree. Linkin Park isn't the best band in the world, but it is tolerable when compared to bands like Dragonforce or Fallout Boy.

Yeah fallout boy blows....dragonforce.....i can take them.....I think power metal fans love em tho im not sure

Ivaron
12-19-2008, 08:38 AM
Yeah fallout boy blows....dragonforce.....i can take them.....I think power metal fans love em tho im not sure
Some love them, some hate them. I can stand them but that's all.

-Mephisto's Lament-
12-19-2008, 11:45 AM
Most Power Metal fans hate Dragonforce..They aren't even Power Metal, they're Nintendocore.