I'm complaining because no matter how beautiful game they create, players can always make it even more beautiful.
No NOT ALWAYS.
As example Skyrim. Awesome game without mods you can add mods which are awesome and improve gameplay, but bad mods/coder will ruin your game.
TL was fun about a week, then you played and cheated with mods for about a week, then you quit with a feeling of disappointment.
I cant imagine TL2 will be any better.
Beat it in a week.
Cheat for a week.
Figure there is no point and quit.
If you wanted to darken the screen, then I am sure you could do it without altering D3 files, thus not against the ToS. Though the odds you got banned for that are probably next to nil.
But this is an old, lost battle, anyway. ActiBlizz went to the 'dark side' and they're not coming back. The days of Eastern Sun and Median XL are, sadly, over.
Everyone who played D2 used maphack to brighten the game and remove the light radius crap anyways.
Literally everyone.
This proves 2 things.
#1 This was a legitimate cheat, though minor, and pretty much no one got banned for it.
#2 D2 constant darkness sucked ass.
You're a god damn idiot. I'm sorry but jesus christ, TL was fun for a lot of players, hence TL2. Maybe throw an "I'm an asshole and this is my shitty opinion" in front of that statement. Just because you personally have the attention span of a fly does not make a game terrible. Not everyone used maphack, I didn't and I know two friends I played with for years did not as well. The darkness set the mood and set up some surprise, it didn't hinder gameplay in any way but enhanced it.
I'm sorry, I just keep seeing pure ignorance from you and it's just getting worse and worse.
Dark3D does modify the game, not the game files, but the game. Yes you can do the same by adjusting your monitor settings, but that's now what you're doing, you are modifying Diablo 3's settings, which is technically against the ToS. Blizzard is just covering their bases with the filter/mod.
The reason these tools are against the ToS is because they alter the game assets in some way. Anything that does so in their eyes COULD BE a hack of some kind, which is bad. It's better to be on the safe side and not allow hacks, dupes, or bots. It's worth the sacrifice if you ask me.
Edit: Jay Wilson was responding to a technical question he doesn't know a whole lot about and he never said that program in particular IS against the TOS. Would you say that overriding the game's Antialiasing is against the ToS? No. And I don't believe that program is either.
Using mods like DarkerD3 or anything that modifies Diablo 3 in any way is against TOS and will get you banned.
I really hope in that case that Blizzard will update Diablo 3 quite often.
And then there's a 19 euro game coming soon that is being released with a full editor, called Torchlight 2...
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I'm not complaining about D3 graphics... jeez people.
There has been no confirmation that direct3d filters will get you banned, they might get you banned since they are technically against the TOS, but they don't alter any of the Diablo 3 files.
Don't spread false information.
It's not false information if there's a chance that you will get banned. People should know that it's not allowed and blue clearly states "it can get you banned" not "it might get you banned". There's a difference between "can" and "might".
I don't really care myself.
I made a ticket to the customerservice:
I have a question regarding a post-processing-filter that has been developed alongside of D3.
It can be found here:http://darkd3.com/
The results can be found here:
It should be noted that alot of people are really interested in this feature, and having the more gritty looks.
What is your( Blizzards ) opinion towards this?
Is this a breach of the EULA and will it lead to a ban through Warden?
The answer is here:
Regarding third party software in general, any application which modifies the in-game experience can in theory be considered unauthorized as per the Diablo III Terms of Use.
We also are not able to provide a list of unauthorized software or confirm if any particular application is authorized or not.
There is also always the additional risk that third-party software will include components that do interfere with the game, even if a simple DirectX filter as such does not. In short, we cannot guarantee that using the filter will not lead to account suspension or closure, and hence recommend against using it.
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This filter doesn't alter any game files, its highly doubtful you will get banned for it (in my opinion), so stating that you will get banned for using itm is false information, its good that you enlighten people, but there is a big difference between will or might.
As has been pointed out, there is of course a chance you can get banned for anything that modifies Diablo 3 in any way because of the fact that the ToS have to be extremely broad. They have to make black and white statements to include anything including things that they may have not even imagined as possible problems as of yet. As a result, anything you ask Blizzard about that modifies the game, they are going to tell you that you 'might' or 'could' get banned for it, and suggest you not use it. They are never going to encourage you to use 3rd party things of any nature, because they are against the ToS even if they are benign.
Not that I would want that myself, but having a graphics filter against ToS is laughable.
ToS is not that specific and it cant be picky, excluding/including that, there is a risk for them if they allow anything from 3rd party, so they don't take the responsibility. Its not like they will hunt players who are using different colour filters, but if their antihack software detects something that author of the 3rd party have added maybe in a patch or some version, they arent at fault if you get suspended. If it wasnt against tos it would pretty much mean they support it, which wouldn't make sense.
I understand where you're coming from but the filter's readme states why this should not be against the ToS unless Blizzard specifically make it so.
Risk of getting banned:
I am aware that Blizzard's stance on modifications makes them prohibited.
But this filter should NOT fall into Blizzard's definiton of a game modification, aka MOD.
The Battle.net Terms of Use prohibit:
- "The use of cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Service, any Game or any Game experience"
- "Modify or cause to be modified any files that are a part of any Game or the Service in any way not expressly authorized by Blizzard"
- "The use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, "mines", or otherwise collects information from or through any Game or the Service, including without limitation any software that reads areas of RAM used by any Game or the Service to store information about a character or a Game environment; provided, however, that Blizzard may, at its sole and absolute discretion, allow the use of certain third party user interfaces;"
The reason why is because of these facts:
- Applying this filter does not modify any of Diablo 3's files at all.
- When you start the game with the filter nothing gets changed or edited.
(Read "What the file "d3d9.dll" does" in the next section for an explanation)
- When the game starts with the filter, NONE of the game's process memory is altered. Meaning nothing of the memory is read, written or modified.
(Altering the game's memory is how many cheats and hacks work, and causes Blizzard's anti-cheat system to raise a red flag)
- Using this filter in the simplest terms creates a custom version of DirectX, or customized video card drivers.
- This filter basically adds on a "layer" of pixel shaders changing the way your video card displays the game.
- Other programs like FRAPs, and the Steam Ingame Overlay use these same techniques to add on to what is rendered on your game's screen.
(Even worse they do not simply override the d3d9.dll by adding it to the game's startup directory like this filter does,
they inject their dll files from an external program into the game, a method also commonly used by hacks)
- There is another filter similar to this one called "ENBSeries" that some WoW players use, and Blizzard did not ban anyone for it.
Skyrim is a console port.
It's also complete trash without mods
Give some examples of needed mods for skyrim.
I know of at least 6!
It takes at least 6 beers before I am buzzed enough to want to play that game.
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I see any game as art. Would you go to a photographer and say "I want to buy this picture, but can you make it darker? Otherwise I don't want it." It's kind of an insult, and I see it to be the same way with games.
The last thing I want is this game to turn into a WoW like UI and mods to tell any idiot the needed info without being cleaver enough to learn it themselves from the ground up.
The last thing I want is this game to turn into a WoW like UI and mods to tell any idiot the needed info without being cleaver enough to learn it themselves from the ground up.
What has this even got to do with anything we are saying here?
I also am cleaver enough to know what I'm doing anyway.
(I applaud your jumping on the 'Hate WoW' bandwagon, though. Very original.)
Jay wilson, and everybody at Blizzard, just said that because its the easy route for blizzard. Just advice consumers against any form of modification. Its the best way for Blizzard. It enables them to decide themselves what will be banned and what will not be.
If they started making distinctions or precedents it would very quickly start to be a mess and more problematic things than d3d trying to exploit these distinctions and precedents.
By stating everything is bannable it doesn't mean everything will, it just means they don't have to give an explanation in the case they ban you for any use of a 3rd party file.
Now, I doubt its detectable and also doubt it would be banned even in that case.
That being said, use at your own risk. I don't care since I think it doesn't look great anyway.
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You're a god damn idiot. I'm sorry but jesus christ, TL was fun for a lot of players, hence TL2. Maybe throw an "I'm an asshole and this is my shitty opinion" in front of that statement. Just because you personally have the attention span of a fly does not make a game terrible. Not everyone used maphack, I didn't and I know two friends I played with for years did not as well. The darkness set the mood and set up some surprise, it didn't hinder gameplay in any way but enhanced it.
I'm sorry, I just keep seeing pure ignorance from you and it's just getting worse and worse.
Dark3D does modify the game, not the game files, but the game. Yes you can do the same by adjusting your monitor settings, but that's now what you're doing, you are modifying Diablo 3's settings, which is technically against the ToS. Blizzard is just covering their bases with the filter/mod.
Edit: Jay Wilson was responding to a technical question he doesn't know a whole lot about and he never said that program in particular IS against the TOS. Would you say that overriding the game's Antialiasing is against the ToS? No. And I don't believe that program is either.
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This filter doesn't alter any game files, its highly doubtful you will get banned for it (in my opinion), so stating that you will get banned for using itm is false information, its good that you enlighten people, but there is a big difference between will or might.
Not that I would want that myself, but having a graphics filter against ToS is laughable.
Give some examples of needed mods for skyrim.
I understand where you're coming from but the filter's readme states why this should not be against the ToS unless Blizzard specifically make it so.
My general stance on mods is that i can live without them for the increased security, I'm not a big fan of changing the game anyway.
It takes at least 6 beers before I am buzzed enough to want to play that game.
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You hit the nail on the head, sir
Seriously though...i'll wait till they have some type of sale on TOrchlight 2 before i get it.
What has this even got to do with anything we are saying here?
I also am cleaver enough to know what I'm doing anyway.
(I applaud your jumping on the 'Hate WoW' bandwagon, though. Very original.)
Hmm, the game is already 19 euros on Steam, and if you preorder it you get Torchlight as well. I don't think you can get cheaper than that.
If they started making distinctions or precedents it would very quickly start to be a mess and more problematic things than d3d trying to exploit these distinctions and precedents.
By stating everything is bannable it doesn't mean everything will, it just means they don't have to give an explanation in the case they ban you for any use of a 3rd party file.
Now, I doubt its detectable and also doubt it would be banned even in that case.
That being said, use at your own risk. I don't care since I think it doesn't look great anyway.