Build Guide
He tried GR103 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imvy40v7nYA but most likely quitted because RG was way too passive.
UPDATE 29/08/2017: GR108 cleared in Europe in Season 11.
1) Switched Frailty to Siphon Blood - Blood Sucker (to open doors and suck globes in LoTd)
2) Switched Devour to Bone Armor - Limited Immunity. Pop this before LotD when you are inside the pack near the elite. Then pop LoTD
Where damage comes from? Elites effectively suicide themselves over your minions, that's how. All "damage" in this setup is actually 100% reflected damage (monsters hit your minions and get 100% of minion's thorns back as a result). Minions have no thorns skills to attack so all damage is "passive". The more minions you have swarming around = the better. This is why you need Revives. They are a CROWD.
There's a couple of specific things that you need to know about this build which were hard to fit in the video:
It is very Elite and RG dependent build and after around GR100 it's very fishy. The type of Elite attacks and affixes greatly affect the "chance" to proc reflected damage off your minions. You need rifts full of FROZEN, ARCANES, FROZEN PULSES, JAILER and such. Huge AOE attacks, massive AOE slams.. This way your minions have higher chance to get hit and reflect damage back. Dumb physical brutes with no AOE attacks will take too long to kill, next to impossible sometimes. Illusionists with no extra affixes take FOREVER, so just skip them completely. Juggernaut Frozens can be killed. Same for RGs: RGs with massive AOE attacks can be killed in seconds, while passive dumb ones like Stonesinger can take infinite time.
Important info:
1) Get as much thorns as possible. Chest, belt and shoulders come first. Shield is very good to have too.
2) Get as much CDR as possible
3) Get as much Physical damage as possible, it scales Thorns directly.
4) Get as much essence as possible, max out in paragon + on weapon and shield.
5) When you see elites = press Land of the Dead and start spamming revives and consume globes to stay alive. Pray for Elites to actually perform some attacks or use affixes to hit as much minions as possible (aoe splash attack or DoT attack like Blighter, frozen pulse and frozen is great too). This will trigger reflected damage and they will die.
6) Passive RGs like Crusader King and dumb physical brutes like Stonesinger can be really annoying and terrible. Some RGs take a lot of time to kill, while some like Blighter and Agnidox die in seconds.
7) Completely avoid Illusionists and Juggernauts without additional affixes like Frozen. They take forever to kill.
8) Remove all STUN,FREEZE, BLIND, etc skills and gear from your follower! Monsters MUST attack your minions and not be stunned!
9) You CAN roll Revive on shoulders and chest if you really want to MAX damage (and can survive)
10) You can ROLL OFF damage range on your weapon, you don't need it for Thorns.
Useful passives & skills:
1) Extended Servitude is great to help your Revives last longer during LoTD and outside as well. You can try dropping either Blood for Blood or Life from Death for it.
2) Simulacrum - Reservoir is a very interesting choice instead of Frailty curse. If you can time it with LoTD than you can add a huge boost to Revive's damage. Life drain can be extreme though in this case.
MY GR 90 is here: https://youtu.be/97UwNnTJgkw
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How well does this perform in T13 content?
Hello Angry, Thank you for this guide.
You were able to do GR90 with barely any gear, but you had a rank 100 boyarski gem equipped which is making up the majority of your total thorns damage. So you were effective almost immediately due to this, and the gem on your weapon.
My question is, what is the minimum that someone would need for thorns damage before they defeat GR90? I hope to accomplish this soon as possible in this season but am concerned I will probably not be able to level all the way to 100 points. Most likely I will get this to maybe 65 - 70, but will this be enough? Or is 100 points absolutely mandatory?
I hope to do this as an alternative to the Corpse Lance build but if you recommend that Corpse Lance is probably a better way go? Thanks
Mask of Scarlett Death in cube increase Thorns damage for minions too, interesting as I was looking at Heart of Iron which also grants Thorns too.
Maybe I'm not understanding something, but how is thorns on gear more important? The gem and topaz in weapon seem to eclipse the gear secondary stats.
I thought the max thorns you can get from gear was somewhere around 30k. If that is close, that equates to 38 levels on the Boyarsky gem. What am I missing?
have you tried droping krysbin and using rorg, and then combining mask with Heart of Iron?
I think you could remove frailty in this build since the majority of the extremely powerful minion builds don't use it they stick with the damage bonus from Decrepify + Krysbin. i think replacing it with something else (something that can destroy doors please?) as it's kinda sad that something so powerful is stopped in it's path by a door, plus i think since it's a minion build adding a golem might not be the worst idea either, or even skeletons
The only thing is, Krysbins is rather crucial for nigh every necro progression build due to the cubed 100% increased damage. Let's say we cube RROG. We would then have to make a choice between unity and krysbin on the alternate ring(since you have to have compass rose on the other). Since survival is paramount I guess we would be forced to drop krysbin's entirely which I'm a little hesitant on.
I guess it would depend upon whether the Thorns boost from Heart of Iron makes up for the loss of krysbins(and indeed whether or not this transfers to the pets).
Options would be:
- Hellfire (though I am not amazed with necro passive choices)
- Eye of etlich (more DR for ranged, that is never enough)
- Any of immunity amulets (I find thunderstorm to be most irritating)
Other amulets kinda suck.
Also, has anyone tried equipping follower with STR Hack and giving him rolls of Thorns everywhere? I am trying to gather gear for that now, but it's slow process. What gear should be used in that case?
I am thinking about something like this:
- Hack (topaz)
- Oculus (a must I'd say)
- Physical SoJ / BKWB (?)
- Ess of Johan
- No death relic
- Physical Lidless
Is %elemental damage even working on follower?
Any thoughts?
Equipping Hack on follower is pointless. He has no thorns multipliers, his damage is tiny.