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I'm messing around with this build and so far it works well, havent tried higher rifts though only up to 65 so far

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I'm messing around with this build and so far it works well, havent tried higher rifts though only up to 65 so far

Same here, I need better gear though to see how far it can really go.

Some do simulacrum to double both reilena's bonus and singularity's.

Things are going pretty good despite the hotfix not even being live yet. When it is this build will be nucking futs.

I'm doing T13 safely (and very fast) and the hotfix still isn't live yet. The thing with this 4pc set bonus (and all of them on Necro) is it requires a "build-up" to get your damage reduction going. You're extremely vulnerable to dying when first entering a new rift because your 4pc bonus isn't online yet and your belt defense bonus relies on actually landing curses before you get one-shot.

I don't think Necro is a great fit for hardcore because of this. Other classes / sets are a lot harder to kill right out the gate. However, once you get rolling you're pretty tough to kill.

As for using Bone Armor instead of Blood Rush, that is certainly an option. The 30% damage reduction is always great regardless of your Necro build. I don't find that I need it in T13 though, and a lot of my gear is still not as good as it could be. Cannibalize is fine if you are taking enough damage to justify it, but the health globes I generate have been enough to keep me rolling so far.

Giving up Blood Rush with Metabolism makes positioning and keeping your Traveler's Pledge bonus going a lot harder, and slows you down in some rifts where you can pass walls and stairs by just teleporting. If speed is your goal, imo stick with BR & M. If you just want to survive better without giving up BR, then take Potency for the double armor buff.

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I'm having a hard time getting my hands on the ring of julian's love. How far do you think this pushes without this ring?

I would say RIGHT NOW, don't even play Rathma's without that ring. You're kneecapping yourself, the build up to your set bonus damage is nearly impossible to achieve, especially if you're using Singularity (which is the best rune).
Tomorrow, though, you only need 4 skeletons to max your bonus unless Blizzard fucks up and pushes the hotfix back a THIRD TIME :[ At that point I'm still in favor of the ring, but it is perhaps no longer mandatory. The issue is that you spend your entire Essence bar just to build 1 Singularity Mage at that point, which will severely slow your build-up at the start of rifts and between big fights. I think if you stick to Singularity the ring is still mandatory, but if you try other (less powerful) runes you could perhaps get away with not using the Julian's Love ring because you could cast all 4 Mages before your Essence drained completely.

Update: I just cleared GR80 with this build. My gear is still very lacking despite my efforts to improve it I've made so many scythes... Anyways I think I might change Blood Rush to Potency because shit can seriously fuck you up in GR80+ You won't have the freedom to double teleport around so much without getting one shot by something.

For people asking about stat priority: whatever raises your sheet damage the most, but sometimes things that don't raise your sheet damage at all. This is going to vary from person to person, but generally the more you stack any one thing the more diminishing returns bite you. For example if you already have 60% critical hit chance, another 5% may not make as big a difference as +10% dmg vs. Elites (assuming you had 0%) or potentially other stats that don't always show up on your sheet dps.

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How? lol

I get wrecked with this build, trying to do GR65! lol

I have a few ancients, by my legendary gems are only lvl 55ish

My epic gems are at least rank 73 each, I have 12k Intelligence total from augments. My gear is still far from perfect, though. Especially annoying is that the best ring I have only extends my Mages for 2 seconds instead of 4 D:
Now, that being said, I farmed all my gems up using this build. I think Bane of the Trapped was around 60~ when I inherited it, but my Enforcer and Esoteric were rank 0.

I'm changing from Devouring Aura to Cannibalize for a few reasons, #1 being that the Devouring Aura is too small. The 10% gain in Essence per corpse is useful, but not when I'm in danger of being 1-shot while trying to get in range of corpses. Cannibalize is the only other real option and works out to help keep you capped off. I'm going to play around with Freeze skeletons and see if they can improve my clears.

I just crushed a 90 rift rather effortlessly with a little over 3 minutes left, I swapped rush with simacrilum for this insane burst potential and watched in awe as the rift guardian melted in 5 seconds. This set outclasses Trag'oul pet build by far now. Not even optimal ancients and augments or high level gems just my 80 GR stuff, pretty insane.

Forgive me if this is a super n00b question, but why reapers wraps? Wouldn't you want to run Nemisis Bracers for rare spawn or even Ancient Parthan Bracers for the DR? Also I LOVE the damage on this build especially after the new patch but I still feel super squishy like a stray arrow clips me and I become a skyrim town guard. Is there anyway w/o sacrificing BR to increase the tankiness of the build?

Just saw what reaper wraps acttually did and I totally agree now, but I still feel like when even the smallest enemy comes over and pokes me that i explode. I get dodging and git gud m8 but if i get jumped and then insta gibbed it doesn't matter how much damage I do because I'm dead. In a build that requires you to tunnel a lil to pull out decent DPS there is no room for recovery. I love this build so much but i feel useless past 75 right now. Any white mob so much as sneezes and I crumple under the force.

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Just saw what reaper wraps acttually did and I totally agree now, but I still feel like when even the smallest enemy comes over and pokes me that i explode. I get dodging and git gud m8 but if i get jumped and then insta gibbed it doesn't matter how much damage I do because I'm dead. In a build that requires you to tunnel a lil to pull out decent DPS there is no room for recovery. I love this build so much but i feel useless past 75 right now. Any white mob so much as sneezes and I crumple under the force.

This is the trouble w/ Necro builds in general, 3 of the 4 sets take a build-up period to get their innate 50% dmg reduction going, then you need to be sure you're Decrepifying everything. You can try changing Decrep rune to -40% dmg, but then you won't get as much benefit from Bane of the Trapped. Try using the +armor rune on Blood Rush if you aren't already, I changed the build to show that.
If this isn't enough I suppose make sure you're always running around instead of standing still to get the Endless Walk dmg redux bonus up as high as you can get it. I still get one-shot by certain whites in GR80, but usually just the charging beasts and others with long windups that I should be avoiding getting hit by anyway. You mostly get owned by that sort of attack because Esoteric Alteration is only protecting you from elemental damage sources (ie: most elite affixes).

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Please add stat priority!

I already explained that stat priority is somewhat fluid - read the descriptions. Just try to make your sheet damage bigger, unless you can take something you don't already have like +10% dmg vs. Elites, which does matter but won't show up in your sheet DPS.

Gizzard gem and "Bone Armor - They Flesh Sustained" is so much better than Esoteric. I'm using that with "Frailty - Scent of blood" currently but i guess it helps alot with essence regen to have Devour so i will try that. Blood Rush is not needed though. I really think you guys should try Gizzard + Bone Storm as mentioned above. At 10 stacks it currently gives me 240k healing per second.

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Gizzard gem and "Bone Armor - They Flesh Sustained" is so much better than Esoteric. I'm using that with "Frailty - Scent of blood" currently but i guess it helps alot with essence regen to have Devour so i will try that. Blood Rush is not needed though. I really think you guys should try Gizzard + Bone Storm as mentioned above. At 10 stacks it currently gives me 240k healing per second.

That sounds pretty good, but I'd rather have Blood Rush than Bone Armor just so I can move without losing Endless Walk damage stacks or teleport out of a situation that is getting out of hand, jump past walls / gaps, etc...

thnx

Unfortunately for some gods forsaken reason you can't roll essence on skullshield so its 310 max and mages only use 270 of that for the damage bonus because they still cost 40 to use. Though with the hot fix if you wanna play at boss/elite melting with simulacrum (reservoir) you get another 310 for 580 times 3% for a 1740% increase and the fun doesn't stop there, because with julian's love and simulacrum at full essence you can can pop out 4 of these bad larrys with 1 cast enabling rathma 6p bonus(hotfix), throw in krysbin/bott/command skele/endless walk for stupid damage you could even save it for after a wipe to get back into play.

Would run julians on hand and kysbins in the cube for 1) its easier to roll 4 seconds when it can only get between 2-4 compared to 100 on a range of 75-100 and 2) julians always rolls crit damage.

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Unfortunately for some gods forsaken reason you can't roll essence on skullshield so its 310 max and mages only use 270 of that for the damage bonus because they still cost 40 to use. Though with the hot fix if you wanna play at boss/elite melting with simulacrum (reservoir) you get another 310 for 580 times 3% for a 1740% increase and the fun doesn't stop there, because with julian's love and simulacrum at full essence you can can pop out 4 of these bad larrys with 1 cast enabling rathma 6p bonus(hotfix), throw in krysbin/bott/command skele/endless walk for stupid damage you could even save it for after a wipe to get back into play.

Would run julians on hand and kysbins in the cube for 1) its easier to roll 4 seconds when it can only get between 2-4 compared to 100 on a range of 75-100 and 2) julians always rolls crit damage.

Good info! That makes sense when I think about, shields don't roll char-specific stats for anyone else.

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Some do simulacrum to double both reilena's bonus and singularity's.

simulacrum - doubles essence
land of dead - for globes

and see the outstanding damage.