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Bumping this for visibility. Good work!

Thanx ya mate! I appreciate the support!

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Nice work, try your jade build works awesome, now I will try this for solo ? Does jade = this build for solo , and why no one go jade for group ? Its awesome trash burst.

Sure you can try this solo. But this is harder to play than Jade indeed!
Jade was and still used in groups, but moslty in lower rifts for speed clears. In higher greater rifts 90+ gargatuan/firebats will be more efficient i think

This seems to reflect my experiences with playing this build. Initially I had some mana problems => no mana => no life regen (on hit) => dead. So that's no good :). The yellow gem in the helmet can help. I also tried using RoRG and change the armor to Cindercoat for up to 30% less resource needed for fire skills - which is your Firebats (RoRG instead of CoE).

Hex is indeed needed for the damage reduction, which you absolutely need. It felt a bit squishy, certainly when you're not channeling. The suggestion of the zombie dogs is good. You lose Piranhas and the ability to group up mobs more easily. That's the tradeoff.

For me the playstyle felt a bit awkward, running and than trying to stand still in a mob. Once you are channeling the build does a lot of damage though.

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This seems to reflect my experiences with playing this build. Initially I had some mana problems => no mana => no life regen (on hit) => dead. So that's no good :). The yellow gem in the helmet can help. I also tried using RoRG and change the armor to Cindercoat for up to 30% less resource needed for fire skills - which is your Firebats (RoRG instead of CoE).

Hex is indeed needed for the damage reduction, which you absolutely need. It felt a bit squishy, certainly when you're not channeling. The suggestion of the zombie dogs is good. You lose Piranhas and the ability to group up mobs more easily. That's the tradeoff.

For me the playstyle felt a bit awkward, running and than trying to stand still in a mob. Once you are channeling the build does a lot of damage though.

I think Rush of Essense is BiS passive here for all mana needs. I tried to run without it and immidiately ran out of mana. Don't even need Topaz now

The links for twitch and youtube don't like me. Added a follow and giving a bump as I've been wanting to try arachyr for gr.

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The links for twitch and youtube don't like me. Added a follow and giving a bump as I've been wanting to try arachyr for gr.

Ohh damn ! Thank for letting me know! That's Dfans layout errors all around!

Also, what about working new Invigorating Gemstone into the build? Maybe instead of stricken? The dmg is amazeballs, but Invigorating gives stacks of healing received, so that would help with the life on hit while channeling, and the lvl 25 requirement removes status effects. I don't know everything that protects against, but the main ground ones might allow you to stand still and firebat it up more. What do you think?

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Also, what about working new Invigorating Gemstone into the build? Maybe instead of stricken? The dmg is amazeballs, but Invigorating gives stacks of healing received, so that would help with the life on hit while channeling, and the lvl 25 requirement removes status effects. I don't know everything that protects against, but the main ground ones might allow you to stand still and firebat it up more. What do you think?

The recovery this build gives is through the roof. Most problems are sustaining heavy hits, melee reduction, physical resistance. I get like 400k healing per second with Leeching Beasts. I think Mutilation Guard would be the way to go instead of Taeguk.
Stricken is a must have in any solo build. RG will take forever without Stricken

I think it would also be useful to put the amulet that pulls mobs together on your follower, since you don't have piranado anymore.

I'm at 72 with crappy gear right now.

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I'm at 72 with crappy gear right now.

I almost did 82 yesterday with no augments. Just need some luck lol

The build feel solid, but I struggle a little bit with making progress in time. Maybe I'm playing it wrong. Do you only go for elites, or mainly for large white mobs? 74 atm.

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The build feel solid, but I struggle a little bit with making progress in time. Maybe I'm playing it wrong. Do you only go for elites, or mainly for large white mobs? 74 atm.

Mostly for elites of fat mobs. Elites somewhat die faster than trash mobs.
I am on the contrary don't have problems with the damage, but surviving is probmelatical. HP jumps like crazy, and KNOCKBACK mobs like Unburied are absolutely horrible

Hi Angry_Roleplayer,

This is a cool build, although I preferred to play it with helltooth set instead, it's more comfortable for me. Seems pretty close to Jade in terms of GR progression viability, which is nice.

I do have one mana-management suggestion : Wouldn't Spiritual Attunement be a better mana choice than Rush of Essence? It also increases your maximum mana and it gives, according to my tests, 16.5 extra mana per second (2% of max mana per second, no paragon points into mana), while Rush of Essence gives 100 mana over 10 sec = 10 mana per second and is also spell-dependent. The only way I see Rush of Essence more viable would be if the spell casting effect of the mana per sec would stack.

What do you say?

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Hi Angry_Roleplayer,

This is a cool build, although I preferred to play it with helltooth set instead, it's more comfortable for me. Seems pretty close to Jade in terms of GR progression viability, which is nice.

I do have one mana-management suggestion : Wouldn't Spiritual Attunement be a better mana choice than Rush of Essence? It also increases your maximum mana and it gives, according to my tests, 16.5 extra mana per second (2% of max mana per second, no paragon points into mana), while Rush of Essence gives 100 mana over 10 sec = 10 mana per second and is also spell-dependent. The only way I see Rush of Essence more viable would be if the spell casting effect of the mana per sec would stack.

What do you say?

Hey man!
Rush of Essense will be better cause it also returns mana from Soul Harvest and Spirit Walk. And when you are in group and will be casting Locust Swarm manually, it will use around 300 mana per cast, Spiritual Attunement just won't compensate it really fast.
Also as far as i can remember Rush of Essense returns 100 mana per every haunt/spirit. So the more haunts you have landed the better. It just solves all mana problems.

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so, if i understand u correct, if we want to mini max we should stick to helltooth?

This is hard to tell since they are incredibly close.
The guy with the Arachyr who cleared 100 last week, they cleared 102 already. And with the HT highest i saw was 103. So it's almost identical.

I would also add that Helltooth feels easier to play and it has 10% more damage reduction + the extra 20% damage taken debuff on mobs. It feels more fluid from my point of view.

I cleared a GR73 in 8 min last night with such incredible ease I couldn't believe it (P800). I was only able to do this with the same ease with the helltooth gargs only, when they wanted to attack the elites:) . It felt incredibly tanky and the damage was huge, boss was down in 20 seconds (used esoteric alteration instead of bane of the stricken). This build seems more consistent than jade imo, especially on GR bosses, which is the big problem for jade.

I would definitely recommend this build to anyone who wants a proper spellcaster bitch doctor, it feels awesome to play, the damage is there, tankyness is there, it makes you work for it, it's what a proper build should feel like!

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I would also add that Helltooth feels easier to play and it has 10% more damage reduction + the extra 20% damage taken debuff on mobs. It feels more fluid from my point of view.

I cleared a GR73 in 8 min last night with such incredible ease I couldn't believe it (P800). I was only able to do this with the same ease with the helltooth gargs only, when they wanted to attack the elites:) . It felt incredibly tanky and the damage was huge, boss was down in 20 seconds (used esoteric alteration instead of bane of the stricken). This build seems more consistent than jade imo, especially on GR bosses, which is the big problem for jade.

I would definitely recommend this build to anyone who wants a proper spellcaster bitch doctor, it feels awesome to play, the damage is there, tankyness is there, it makes you work for it, it's what a proper build should feel like!

I cleared 82 solo so far with 0 augments still. Don't have time to push higher for now.
Jade is almost the same overall and much tankier in the 80s i think. As for the spellcaster i totally agree! This is the first viable, solid spellcaster WD build since HT Acid Cloud / Zbears

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only + i really can see in this build vs the helltooth is that the 4set give alot life regen for sustain

And it's actually very good!

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Nice build,

trying (to get all the right gear) this build now.

I'm wondering if Grave Injustice would be beneficial for this build (instead of Rush of Essence).

Thanx! Dont think GI would be worthy here