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The way you r playing i see no point in using travelers set. You seem to get almost no benefit form it at all

I would have to agree and suggest hellfire and COE instead.

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The way you r playing i see no point in using travelers set. You seem to get almost no benefit form it at all

It's possible he's using the set for defense during the rift and for offense during the RG. Remember that with this configuration you're losing DR from Serpent or Cat, plus the healing from dogs, for all that Sacrifice damage. That starts to hurt, as even with the 10% DR boost to Helltooth, you're losing a lot of the mitigation you had in LoN.

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The way you r playing i see no point in using travelers set. You seem to get almost no benefit form it at all

It's possible he's using the set for defense during the rift and for offense during the RG. Remember that with this configuration you're losing DR from Serpent or Cat, plus the healing from dogs, for all that Sacrifice damage. That starts to hurt, as even with the 10% DR boost to Helltooth, you're losing a lot of the mitigation you had in LoN.

That is right on the spot!
I've used COE+HF ammy in the previous version of the build (for 2.4) as it relied on gargs less. Now as gargs were buffed greatly (both damage and toughness), the build is less mobile overall, it's more of "stand still and fire dogs and run away in case of emregency". The GrIft level is about 10 tiers higher, so mobs do more damage, and as i don't use Henry's Perquisition, Endless Walk set is ideal solution. It gives both damage reduction and damage boost. It is possible to just stand near the wall and watch Gargs do the job

Overall Endless Walk set is a better solution for toughness/damage instead of COE+HF.

How is the toughness and survivability increased in 2.4.1? I am trying this build in 2.4 and I had to trade in the BotS just to stay alive in 67. What improvements are there to increase the survivability? Even with the reduced monster power, can this build really survive GR 90?

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How is the toughness and survivability increased in 2.4.1? I am trying this build in 2.4 and I had to trade in the BotS just to stay alive in 67. What improvements are there to increase the survivability? Even with the reduced monster power, can this build really survive GR 90?

Helltooth damage reduction increased from 50 to 60%, also mobs damage toned down a lot i believe. I had hard times in 2.4 with this build in 74. However 80 on PTR was kinda easy and VERY SAFE.

i was just wondering... would the Pain Enhancer ever be a better choice over BotS gem? Maybe in a group setting or nah?

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i was just wondering... would the Pain Enhancer ever be a better choice over BotS gem? Maybe in a group setting or nah?

I doubt so. Garg builds are mostly Elite killers. Pain Enhancer is mostly good for trash mobs and IAS-based builds.

Sorry, I have been playing around with this build, and there is no way it has the toughness for GR 90, even with reduced monster power. 10% reduction is not going to cut it. It has the DPS, as I am hitting 90b damage, but that does no good when you die. The LoN build may be a good option for 2.4.1, but I will have to see which is better when the patch goes live.

This build definitely works for 90+ in 2.4.1, BUT you have to use Henris Percusission as your offhand and use Zombie dogs chilled to the bone. Make those changes and you are good. This only comes from 3 days of testing, but with this setup, your survival rate is much higher.

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Very good build ! Thx

Just note 2 points :

- On weapon, 7% AS > 9% Dmg, so, unless if you have +10%dmg, think about AS on weapon

- Gruesome Feast will give you more DPS and more toughtness than Pierce the Veil.

When you have 20%debuff from set + 15% debuff from pyrana + 60% buff from sacrifice = 95% buff, Pierce the veil only give you a real 10% DPS. With Pierce the viel, just 1 globe will give you the same.

You need area damage more than anything else on weapon And of cause weapon should always be rolled at 10% damage.
Gruesome feast is very situational dps buff, you can be running without globes for minutes, while pierce the veil is constant buff. Still better than anything else for sheet dps.

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This build definitely works for 90+ in 2.4.1, BUT you have to use Henris Percusission as your offhand and use Zombie dogs chilled to the bone. Make those changes and you are good. This only comes from 3 days of testing, but with this setup, your survival rate is much higher.

The whole reason for this build to exist is because of Homunculus. With Henrys it's whole different, just a general garg build.
You can just switch BOTTS for esoteric if you have the dps but lacking toughness.

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Can i use Kukri instead of Harvester??

You can of cause. Bit you will instantly lose 30% damage reduction and 15% more intelligence. While you can compensate DPS loss indeed, you won't be able to compensate damage reduction.

IMHO, every build must be tested under para 800 or its just a fancy show off.

Hey Angry_Roleplayer! Big fan of your builds, I have been playing your Zuni Gargs build this season as I'm not really into the current firebats meta. I was just wondering if this build is still viable in 2.4.3?

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Hey Angry_Roleplayer! Big fan of your builds, I have been playing your Zuni Gargs build this season as I'm not really into the current firebats meta. I was just wondering if this build is still viable in 2.4.3?

Hey man! Thanx!
It's still viable indeed!