Build Guide
Hey there,
happy to present my version of the 6WW/2BK + ORotZ build. It departs from the classic "get as much CDR as possible build" and turned out to be a really strong setup. Although this is not the reinvention of the wheel, this build offers some new ideas and a little deviation from the standard gameplay as well.
To underline how strong this build is, I have uploaded a video, clearing a greater Rift 53 in less than 10 minutes. In the video, I also talk about the reasons for my decisions, including the pros and cons of common alternatives. Furthermore there is a detailed, probably more entertaining description of the entire build included.
Gear
Gear choices are pretty much predetermined. You unavoidably need to run 6 Piece Wastes, 2 Piece Bul Kathos and the Obsidian Ring of the Zodiac. I made good progress using Pride of Cassius and Reaper's Wraps, but there might be other options. Stat priorities are displayed in the Item overview above.
What's new about this build?
The special aspect about this build is that you're not going for CDR on your weapons but IAS. With IAS on Weapons + Gogok + 7 % IAS on your Obsidian Ring + 4 % IAS in Paragon, you exactly hit the 6.66 Dust Devils Breakpoint (26% IAS on gear required for this, if you have IAS on Weapons + WotB/Gogok up). This breakpoint goes in hand with the 10.00 WW Breakpoint, providing lots of hits, proccing your ring and reducing your cooldowns in a comparable amount to CDR rolls on your weapons. The advantage? More IAS does not only mean more proccs/less cooldown but also more damage. You do not even need a high dense rift for this to work. As you can see in the video, I manage to keep up my Berserker 100 % of the time while fighting against the Riftguardian.
The second variation from the standard build is Rend. Rend has no cooldown and is an additional source of dmg plus it will also increase the dmg of your WW/Dust Devils by another 10%, if you use Mutilate. Therefore Rend is a viable alternative to Threatening Shout/Overpower in my opinion. For those of you who don't like playing Whirlwind on your left mousebutton, this might be another argument, even though it's only about personal preferences. Just make sure to only apply rend in situation that allow you to interrupt whirlwinding.
Concerning gameplay, you should make sure to have Warcry and Battlerage up at all times without recasting them as long as they are still active
(exception for Warcry during bossfights to regen fury). Their cooldowns would be reduced by your ORotZ aswell, slowing down the cooldowns of Ignore Pain and Wrath of the Berserker.
Ignore Pain isn't needed all the time, make sure to only use it if you are really under fire. If you are struggling with a nasty pack or huge trash packs though, this build still offers enough CDR to keep Ignore Pain and Wrath of the Berserker up simultaneously.
Taeguk and Bane of the Trapped are not debateable for WW Builds. Both gems are literally boosting your damage without paying attention to it. Gogok becomes kind of mandatory either, because you do not only gain 15% CDR but also 15 % increased attack speed which allows you to hit a high breakpoint, while keeping toughness stats on Gloves/Belt.
I cleared a greater rift 55 in ~12min40 so far with this exact build and there is obviously room for improvement .
Let me know, what you think of this. Thanks for reading!
Nice build. I am experimenting with a similar build, but am using Unity as my 2nd ring, I am on HC mind you.
It's good to see people having success with something besides the standard IK//Wastes build, I think the BK set has a great deal of potential.
Have you considered attempting a build with F&R using frenzy or bash? I know you lose the zodiac ring but I think if you have high enough CDR, it could work out. I hate suggesting F&R for a class that doesn't generally use it, but it is just so powerful
For anyone attempting to create this setup, I would HIGHLY recommend obtaining a Mara's necklace. It will save your life, guaranteed. This item has made my life so much easier for pushing GR's solo.
What is the attack speed we aim for unbuffed? I am at 44% now (thinking should i use gogok over pain enhancer with that ammount of as)
So I tried out this build a lil earlier and for some reason my WoTB doesn't CD fast enough it pretty much gets to 75% befor I lose my WoTB. Any clue to why? I have my attack increase to 26% but they are not on my weapons just on my braces, gloves, and ring plus paragon. I even have a white gem in my helm and and a bit of CD on other items. I was doing a 49 rift at the time and had huge mobs so I have no clue x.x
Ty for the quick reply! This clears up most of it now I'll try out the build with IAS on my weapons lil later today
Tobs, great guide! Going to give it a shot. My weapons don't have ias on them, however I'm at 27% without any paragon points in it. Just curious where you found the information on dustdevil breakpoints? If you could link a source that would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Great! Tvym. I'm trying to understand all the spreadsheets and having a bit of difficulty. Now I have 7%ias on 1 sword..but not the other. I have 7%ias on gloves and only 5% on OrotZ. Now how much should I put into paragon?
*edit* (looked at things again and this is what I get to)
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According to this (http://codepen.io/anon/pen/yyWLXw) you need the following (no AS on BK's):
Base stats of: 1.79 Aps
AS Increase of 38%
That gives you fully buffed (gogok & wotb) stats of: 2.314 attacks per second & 78% AS increase, which in turn will be 3.0082 Attacks per second including BKO, which is what you need for 6.6 dust devils ticks per second.
Correct?
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All that has been said above is simply not clear to me, so any help would be appreciated.
Let me ask it this way.
1) BK Weapons with no AS on weapons.
You start a game, press "I" immediately and Details. What should (A) your "Attacks per Second" show and (B) what should "Attack Speed Increase" show.
So the only things that will impact these numbers would be AS on gear & Paragon points. That makes it base numbers.
With the base numbers it is then easy. On that when you actually play the Gogok stacks as well as the AS boost from your WotB gets added.
So when you actually have full AS from everything (Gogok & WotB) when you play and kill things, what should (C) your "Attacks per Second" now show? and (D) what should "Attack Speed Increase" now show.? (so this would be fully buffed)
2) Repeat the above when you actually have BK Weapons with 7 AS on both and I'd have a clear picture, because currently I do not.
3) Currently I have
2 x BK Weapons without AS
2 x items with 7 AS each
10% AS from Paragon
That gives base stats of (A) 1.81 Attacks per Second & (B) Attack Speed Increase of 39%
Fully buffed (Gogok 15 stacks & WotB) that would come out to mmm 2.33 Aps & 79% AS increase per stats sheet. That should be perma WotB
WW Breakpoints:
aps: 2.00001 | tps: 6.6667
WW Dustdevils Breakpoints:
aps: 3.00001 | tps: 6.6667
http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo3Barbarians/wiki/breakpoints
First off, very good guide.
I just want to clarify a couple of things.
1) I believe 1.79 APS on your profile + wotb + gogok should be sufficient to hit the breakpoint. The next breakpoint wont be worth going for. Thus it doesnt really matter where you find that 1.79 APS right? I understand you have mentioned previously that the ias on weap stacks multiplicatively, but shouldnt 1.79 APS on sheet be sufficient?
2) I have just switched both my weapons to 7% IAS after having 10% CDR earlier. I did this in hope that IAS on weap would keep my WOTB up more often. I'm able to keep it really tight with CDR on weaps. But that hasnt happened. In fact, I have to push really hard to have my WOTB up more often.
My profile for reference - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Xfer-1388/hero/29887460
3) Zodiac shouldnt be procced by dust devils, instead only WW hits. Correct me if im wrong. I read it off forum some time back. If this is true, the DD breakpoint is more for its damage, not so much about proccing Zodiac.
I will try to make some changes and see how it goes. Thanks!
I honestly do not know how you so easily get perma wotb (in the vid. must be AS on weapons that does something).
I have the 6.66 DD breakpoint as I've shown above in another post, but with this AS build I only have perma WotB if I am are spinning between and hitting a bunch of mobs, not on the RG.
Most of the time I will not have perma WotB, but a tiny downtime, which tbh is not bad.
The 6.66 DD is a nice breakpoint to get though!
BTW, this is my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/LimpNoodle-2379/hero/58870022
What GR should that be able to do? Obviously I'm hoping for some more drops to upgrade, but any opinion would be helpful)
Tobz, how can improve my build atm? i can no where keep WotB up at 100% just keep IP up, i know my ancient belt is only 4 secs so im looking for an upgrade there but otherwise any tips or next item to gamble?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Stig-1468/hero/60435738
Also, how do you start a rift? Battlerage, Warcry then WotB or IP? if i slam all of them at once im already set back...
The build have potential thanks for it.
But i have some small questions:
I have unbuffed 37.1 AS
and 32 CDR.
But the cd of berserk is so slow,when i watched your video i see that your berserk cd is so fast.
What amount shoul we aim? can you tell me your cdr.
Im gonna try also CDR on convention to see but i don't think that +%7 cdr will be enough.
what am i doing wrong? I am getting killed at grift 40 .my gems are not high enough yet but i am working on that.
Hmm,
So i need to reroll convention to cd and 39% will be enough.
With ik waste build my record is solo 52 but want to try also this build..
Lol im stupid,my obsidian ring dont have the cd reduction per resource spending attack..
That was the problem!
Can you check my build and see if I'm doing it right? For some reason I'm confused feel like I might be over-killing it on the CDR and APS
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Shwag-1463/hero/60317520
Unbuffed AS Increase: 40%
Buffed AS Increase: 80%
CDR: 46% (buffed), 31% unbuffed
APS unbuffed: 1.95
APS Buffed: 2.50
4% AS comes from Paragon
I tried GR 50 with this build and I've tried like 10 other builds prior to this and I have to say this is the best so far and it is the only build that I cleared a GR 50 with too, I've gotten close with others but this one was the easiest and fastest
I'd really appreciate if you would give me some suggestions on my gear!
Thanks for the reply.
I have a decent hellfire amulet but I will miss out on 10% Crit Hit Chance, it rolled into STR/AllRes/CHD/Socket with the superstition passive, do you think I should replace my Mara's with that? My CHC will go down from 65% to 55%, is it worth it? I also have another amulet that has STR/CHC/CHD/Socket but no immunity or any useful secondary's, it's the Blackthorne set amulet.
How is my lAS/CDR? Any changes I need to do there? I tried replacing my Mara's with the hellfire amulet and my APS went down to 1.85 and AS Increase went down to 33% (All unbuffed) Buffed it is 2.41 APS, and 73% AS Increase.
What should I aim for?
Also why do I never reach the breakpoint of 10.00 WW? It caps out at 2.5 even though I have well over the APS needed. I used the calculator and it says I hit the 12 WW tps and 7.5 DD tps, so does that mean it doesn't display the actual APS and all that in-game? According to the calculator, I hit 3.399604 APS, but only shows up as 2.41 in-game.
Do you think It's a wise decision to reroll 100% CHD from my Mara's into a socket?
Seems kind of dumb but I don't know
Running this build , i had run it way back at the start of season3 and recently came back to it and came on d3fans to see what other people have been doing , this build works well i have non ancient BK's and i can do 47 with sub par gear .
hey do you think you can give me some advice i cant get anything past a 54 here is my profile http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Errdawg-1144/hero/60714122 . any information would help me a great deal
my base aps is 1.72 on both hands CDR is 38.67 and attack speed increase 32%
buffed is 2.24 on both hands c CDR is 47.88 and attack speed increase 72%